Political Isms

May 9th, 2008, in News & Issues, by Patung

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15 Comments on “Political Isms”

  1. gigi gigi Says:
    May 9th, 2008 at 2:43 pm

    Good article. Spot on!

  2. jaka jaka Says:
    May 9th, 2008 at 2:54 pm

    Want to add one: neo-conservatism, either religious or not (like some green movements).

  3. PrimaryDrive PrimaryDrive Says:
    May 9th, 2008 at 5:07 pm

    We should arrest these general and minister for trying to non-sensically educate our population. As the long term impact of wide spread stupidity can seriously harm our future productivity, and hence e.g. our food supply, these two individuals form a threat for the nation. They should be jailed.

  4. Sylvester Sylvester Says:
    May 9th, 2008 at 6:42 pm

    I think both of them are right at some points (not all).
    Western governments need a lot of natural resources such as crude oil, coal, gas, ores from the developing countries such as Indonesia. These governments certainly will only do for their own people’s benefit, go to hell with the local people. Although many humanitarian NGOs have done a lot of good work in many poor countries, however, the majority of Western people do not really care that they have benefit from the poor in the developing countries.

    For example, most of the toys and clothing are made in China. The Chinese labor only earns less than 50 cents per item. The price here could be between 20-50 dollars which the biggest profit goes to the capitalists in the West.

    This also happen with the product made in Indonesia. The worker, especially women, only get less than 1 % of the profit, which mostly goes to the filthy big stores owners in the West.

    In addition, most Westerners think they are superior since they are more advanced in the science and technology. Many White Aussie think they are together with White American are the best in Asia Pacific. However, Japan, Taiwan, Singapore and Korea for example are advanced as well, even better than Australia. China is developing fast and soon will join the club.

    Indonesia?
    If Indonesians want to join the club, they will have to be self-esteem, work hard and honest.
    Never think that bule are always smart.

  5. Kangaris Kangaris Says:
    May 9th, 2008 at 11:45 pm

    The wealth is from the god. Specially for the moslem country, Allah just only gives them. Without any difficulty. In other case, for the non muslem country, they must working hard to earning the wealth.

  6. ultratupai ultratupai Says:
    May 10th, 2008 at 6:15 am

    I would add “consumerism” as a yet another ism that is a serious problem for Indonesia… everything from the gross conspicuous consumption of the rich to recruitment of the the poor into the “mall” culture.

  7. Marisa Marisa Says:
    May 10th, 2008 at 9:04 am

    Hey that’s a blogger! The one in the picture with Adhyaksa Dault.

    @ topic

    I support neo-nerdism, neo-geekism, and neo-bookwormism. Yeah!

  8. aroengbinang aroengbinang Says:
    May 10th, 2008 at 12:23 pm

    I think all the isms are essentially the same, only that the impact is much stronger and faster with the help of global political and business powers, as well as with the advancement of technology in telecomunication and computing.
    It’s a never ending struggles between paradoxes.

  9. dewaratugedeanom dewaratugedeanom Says:
    May 10th, 2008 at 7:57 pm

    Sylvester said

    Western governments need a lot of natural resources such as crude oil, coal, gas, ores from the developing countries such as Indonesia.

    Only the Western governments? And what about China? Do you think they are protecting regimes like Sudan and Myanmar with poor human rights records, if not to safeguard access to their natural resources? Not to mention their own human rights records, of course. What is happening now in Congo?
    If you are talking about neo-colonialism don’t only look West.

  10. Toar Purnomo Lairedion Says:
    May 11th, 2008 at 3:45 am

    Sylvester,

    Read this article here and see for yourself how far China is willing to go. I already can imagine the devastating effects to local populations and environment because it will only trigger the nasty greediness of corrupt local leaders.

    China considers buying land overseas to secure food supply – report

  11. Sylvester Sylvester Says:
    May 11th, 2008 at 5:38 am

    China is different. It does not want to get involved in the domestic issue. Thus, it may seems that China is ignorant to the civil war in Sudan. Also, we are talking about Indonesia in specific. Do you think there may be problem with Chinese investment in Indonesia? Or Chinese spreads its ideology and neo-colonizes Indonesia, like the Whites always do? You should be more careful in comparing China and the West.

  12. Rob Rob Says:
    May 11th, 2008 at 4:31 pm

    Human nature that everything has to be labeled and an -ism on the end of a word is the easiest way to label…a point made well and proved by Marisa!

    Sylvester….

    It seems your beef is with white people and not the -isms themselves!

  13. Janma Janma Says:
    May 12th, 2008 at 12:21 pm

    I don’t like labels….. they itch.

  14. gigi gigi Says:
    May 12th, 2008 at 2:50 pm

    About Sudan, let’s just say that if the US had a huge investment in Sudan (like China did) they would’ve stayed silence on the human rights issue as well. The US are notorious for their double standards, aren’t they?

  15. Rambutan Rambutan Says:
    May 13th, 2008 at 12:46 pm

    Speaking at the Universitas Islam Sultan Agung (Unissula) in Semarang he said materialistic and liberal values entered Indonesia via information networks, institutions, and through processes involved in investment, and industrialisation

    True, and thanks God for liberal values entering Indonesia.

    Do you think there may be problem with Chinese investment in Indonesia?

    Look to Papua where Chinese companies are heavily involved in illegal logging (with a helping hand from TNI providing security) and I would say Yes, there is a problem, too, with Chinese investment.



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