88 Comments on “World’s Happiest People”
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bluemoejoe says:
March 26th, 2012 at 10:18 pmpeople can we all just get along?
firstly …. i present a sincere appology …. for my rude behaviour as a newbie in the neighbourhood …
hopely thing wouldn’t be escalated again …. and by your permission “kang” …. i’ll humbly return to my cozy corner and spend more samsu and kapal api again
salam
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berlian biru says:
March 27th, 2012 at 8:53 amIs it just me or has this thread descended to utter incomprehensibility?
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deta says:
March 27th, 2012 at 10:25 amHi, bluemoejoe
so instead moaning , cursing and bashing others… ( borrowed the notion from ” ikhlas ” ) they already accept the reality and passes the ” denial phase ” and make peace with the minds
In this society where ambition is not quite seen as a virtue, and justice is merely a slogan that seems too good to be true, accepting reality only makes the less fortunate fellows sink even further down the sink hole.
Being apathetic too is often mistaken as ikhlas. And that kind of ikhlas doesn’t pay the bills (and the increasing price of BBM)
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stevo says:
March 27th, 2012 at 11:58 amIs it just me or has this thread descended to utter incomprehensibility?
It explains why they are so happy.
Often we are faced with a choice: Do you want happiness or logic ?
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March 27th, 2012 at 12:24 pmOften we are faced with a choice: Do you want happiness or logic
We all want logical happiness. But then again, one would argue that the standard of logical reasoning may vary in different situations.
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stevo says:
March 27th, 2012 at 12:52 pmNot a valid comparrison deta. Happiness is an emotion, logic is not.Logic has limited control over our emotions. Sometimes we feel bad, but logically we know it is pointless to feel that way. Our logical side can not directly control our emotional state.
Have you ever felt sad, mad, jealous, angry, shy, in love, tearful? If you have ever felt any of those thing, please explain the “logic” behind the feeling.
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March 27th, 2012 at 1:29 pmHave you ever felt sad, mad, jealous, angry, shy, in love, tearful? If you have ever felt any of those thing, please explain the “logic” behind the feeling.
The answer is simple. It’s the hormones talkin.
Yes, it’s true that the logical side cannot control our emotional state. But as far as my experience is concerned, unless you suffer from manic depressive behavior, there is always a reason or “logic” behind each of those emotional feelings. What possibly happens is that these seemingly logical reasons are considered to be simply illogical by an outside observer’s point of view. The seemingly logical reasons for Indonesian people to be happy might be seen as illogical by people who were brought up in different situations.
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stevo says:
March 27th, 2012 at 2:16 pm… there is always a reason or “logic” behind each of those emotional feelings. What possibly happens is that these seemingly logical reasons are considered to be simply illogical by an outside observer’s point of view
deta that is known as “female logic”
Can you imagine applying that principle to solving a math problem or designing an air plane wing! You can not claim that 2 + 2 = 22 simply because it “feels” right and therefore it is logical on a personal level.
Mostly people do things based on emotion, then find the “logical” reasons to support it.
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March 27th, 2012 at 3:24 pmCan you imagine applying that principle to solving a math problem or designing an air plane wing! You can not claim that 2 + 2 = 22 simply because it “feels” right and therefore it is logical on a personal level.
So, we cannot state that 2 + 2 = 22? Sigh. And they say we’re supposed to think out of box.
Anyway, that’s an unfit analogy when you compare happiness with designing an air plane wing. Let me humbly repeat: there are different standards of reasoning for different situations. The logical reasoning and bias tolerance limits in designing an air plane wing or solving math equations will be different from those in determining someone’s happiness. There is a universal standard for the previous (and probably zero tolerance for bias), but not for the latter.
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stevo says:
March 27th, 2012 at 3:32 pmWell good luck telling yourself your happy, when you feel awful. I’m guessing the emotion will win that contest
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March 27th, 2012 at 3:51 pmNice talking to you, Stevo. Have an awful day
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stevo says:
March 27th, 2012 at 3:53 pmIt works both ways. I am having a great day, it would not be logically or emotionally right to feel differently. No doubt that news may ruin your day however
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March 27th, 2012 at 4:01 pmI am having a great day
Although that’s logically impossible, I am emotionally happy for you.
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bluemoejoe says:
March 27th, 2012 at 8:40 pmevening DETA and may peace be upon you
Being apathetic too is often mistaken as ikhlas. And that kind of ikhlas doesn’t pay the bills (and the increasing price of BBM)
well …. sister . if that is the true meanings for ” ikhlas ” … then i’ve left this forsaken beliefs for goods . but thanks god …. most of us take the other ones though (meanings)
human are unique creatures for sometimes we wish things we don’t need and forsake things that we haves without some consideration upon others
it’s a human nature for seeking the betters of everything and even “allah” commands us to …. for he not gonna changes those who never exert and attempt .
just thrust hards and gives you all mights ….and let him decides what’s better suited for you without some grudges at all ( that’s the hardest part and lifetime journeys for a true moslems ideals )
for we are simply a humble human before him trying to understand all of things that beyond our comprehensions . sometimes he points a way …and sometimes he keeps thing secrets for a while but stills he is emphasize on an attempt
( the only attempts forbade by him …. was an understanding about mystique …. )oh yes it was easier to said than doings it …. but bitching around without trying something surely wont change the equations either ….
salam
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agan says:
March 28th, 2012 at 10:25 amYou can not claim that 2 + 2 = 22 simply because it “feels” right and therefore it is logical on a personal level.
So, we cannot state that 2 + 2 = 22? Sigh.
And they say we’re supposed to think out of box.Rubbish, everybody knows 2+2=22 (big brother said so)
And here is the proof and I’m typing very slowly:2+2=22
or 4=22Let’s take a 5th. Grade’s simple algebraic equation a+b=c
multiply each side (left and right) with any random number (except 0 of course) and the equation will still be valid, so for shit and giggle I choose, say 18 as multiplier then18 (a+b)=18 (c)
18a+18b=18cUsing similar logic above this can also be written as:
22a-4a + 22b-4b = 22c-4cRearrange the numbers:
22a+22b-22c = 4a+4b-4cFactorize the equation:
22(a+b-c) =4(a+b-c)Remove the same term from each side and voila!
22=4
“Stinking inside the Pool”
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stevo says:
March 28th, 2012 at 10:41 amI hope you don’t design aircraft wings Agan. With skills like that you should be working for the government. You could even prove there is no corruption and that all money is properly accounted for.
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March 28th, 2012 at 12:34 pmInteresting, kang Agan, but let me put my counter argument :
Factorize the equation:
22(a+b-c) =4(a+b-c)At this point, you cannot remove the term (a+b-c) from each side, because when a+b=c, then (a+b-c) = 0
Removing the term (a+b-c) from both sides will be similar to removing 0 from the equation: 22 x 0 = 4 x 0, and concluding that 22 = 4.
Although that’s “logically” right, some people will be “unhappy” about it
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March 28th, 2012 at 8:05 pm^Aww dang it, ceu Deta you are smarter than a 5th. Grader
And Stevo no bintang for you, sunshine.Me joined kang Bluemoejoe (samsu+kapal api)-ing in the cozy corner.
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March 30th, 2012 at 7:31 amThank you, Agan, I guess I am now officially entitled to design a rocket. Wikkiki…
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stevo says:
March 30th, 2012 at 8:11 amThe answer is simple. It’s the hormones talkin…
I guess I am now officially entitled to design a rocket.Yeah I can’t wait to see what a rocket would look like, designed by a hormonal Indonesian girl !
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March 30th, 2012 at 12:20 pmOuch! Sexist joke is just as bad as racist joke, Stevo. But if that can make you “happy”….
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stevo says:
April 11th, 2012 at 5:11 amAnd just as funny deta… Of course woman have a terrible sense of humour, so thats probably lost on you. I think it is because woman tend to take everything as a personal comment and are essentially inward looking. This reality is well understood by the worlds oldest developed cultures, where woman are viewed rather differently than they are in West.
There is so much accumulated wisdom, over-looked by the Eurocentric West….. don’t you think deta?…
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stevo says:
April 11th, 2012 at 5:17 amPS.
I note that Saudi Arabia is ahead of Sweden in the happiness rating, so it seems the facts support my observation lol
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April 11th, 2012 at 4:37 pmOf course woman have a terrible sense of humour, so thats probably lost on you.
Not “terrible”, Stevo, just “different”, and your joke was not lost. My first reaction reading your comment was LMAO, but of course, as a self proclaimed (ahem, cough, cough!) feminist, I had to hide it behind the screen.
This reality is well understood by the worlds oldest developed cultures, where woman are viewed rather differently than they are in West.
While the oldest developed cultures understand that men and women are biologically and psychologically different, they (deliberately) fail to understand that such differences shouldn’t dismiss the right of every citizen to have fair share of opportunity in civil and legal matters.
I note that Saudi Arabia is ahead of Sweden in the happiness rating, so it seems the facts support my observation lol
Most of the participants must’ve been males.
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stevo says:
April 12th, 2012 at 4:50 amGood reply deta. You got me
You have made a very accurate and concise summary on all points. Clearly I will have to try harder to stir-you-up. Your not as hysterical as some “feminists”. There needs to be a few more like you.
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bonni says:
April 12th, 2012 at 4:40 pmStevo, enough with the logic. I’ve known you as the hopeless romantic possibly-loveable man from other thread here. And surely the feminists have nothing to do with it.
*enjoying a glass of canadian red wine*
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stevo says:
April 13th, 2012 at 6:24 amWhy not Aussie wine bonni, they make some great reds? It is one of the few good things to come from that penal colony.
Do you know why it is so hard to get decent affordable wine in Indonesia? A good friend returned home and was reduced to drinking – terrible -wine from a cardboard box and beer. The stuff in the box was the worst I have ever tasted.
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bonni says:
April 18th, 2012 at 5:35 pmStevo,
Cause it’s my favorite one. Haven’t tasted aussie wine yet. Yeah, it’s not cheap to get the best one… But still they say we are the world’s happiest people! Woot woot!
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