World’s Happiest People

Mar 9th, 2012, in Business & Economy, Featured, IM Posts, by

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  1. avatar bluemoejoe says:
    March 26th, 2012 at 10:18 pm

    people can we all just get along?

    firstly …. i present a sincere appology …. for my rude behaviour as a newbie in the neighbourhood …

    hopely thing wouldn’t be escalated again …. and by your permission “kang” …. i’ll humbly return to my cozy corner and spend more samsu and kapal api again :smile:

    salam

  2. avatar berlian biru says:
    March 27th, 2012 at 8:53 am

    Is it just me or has this thread descended to utter incomprehensibility?

  3. avatar deta says:
    March 27th, 2012 at 10:25 am

    Hi, bluemoejoe

    so instead moaning , cursing and bashing others… ( borrowed the notion from ” ikhlas ” ) they already accept the reality and passes the ” denial phase ” and make peace with the minds

    In this society where ambition is not quite seen as a virtue, and justice is merely a slogan that seems too good to be true, accepting reality only makes the less fortunate fellows sink even further down the sink hole.

    Being apathetic too is often mistaken as ikhlas. And that kind of ikhlas doesn’t pay the bills (and the increasing price of BBM) :(

  4. avatar stevo says:
    March 27th, 2012 at 11:58 am

    Is it just me or has this thread descended to utter incomprehensibility?

    It explains why they are so happy.

    Often we are faced with a choice: Do you want happiness or logic ?

  5. avatar deta says:
    March 27th, 2012 at 12:24 pm

    Often we are faced with a choice: Do you want happiness or logic

    We all want logical happiness. But then again, one would argue that the standard of logical reasoning may vary in different situations.

  6. avatar stevo says:
    March 27th, 2012 at 12:52 pm

    Not a valid comparrison deta. Happiness is an emotion, logic is not.Logic has limited control over our emotions. Sometimes we feel bad, but logically we know it is pointless to feel that way. Our logical side can not directly control our emotional state.

    Have you ever felt sad, mad, jealous, angry, shy, in love, tearful? If you have ever felt any of those thing, please explain the “logic” behind the feeling.

  7. avatar deta says:
    March 27th, 2012 at 1:29 pm

    Have you ever felt sad, mad, jealous, angry, shy, in love, tearful? If you have ever felt any of those thing, please explain the “logic” behind the feeling.

    The answer is simple. It’s the hormones talkin.

    Yes, it’s true that the logical side cannot control our emotional state. But as far as my experience is concerned, unless you suffer from manic depressive behavior, there is always a reason or “logic” behind each of those emotional feelings. What possibly happens is that these seemingly logical reasons are considered to be simply illogical by an outside observer’s point of view. The seemingly logical reasons for Indonesian people to be happy might be seen as illogical by people who were brought up in different situations.

  8. avatar stevo says:
    March 27th, 2012 at 2:16 pm

    … there is always a reason or “logic” behind each of those emotional feelings. What possibly happens is that these seemingly logical reasons are considered to be simply illogical by an outside observer’s point of view

    deta that is known as “female logic”

    Can you imagine applying that principle to solving a math problem or designing an air plane wing! You can not claim that 2 + 2 = 22 simply because it “feels” right and therefore it is logical on a personal level.

    Mostly people do things based on emotion, then find the “logical” reasons to support it.

  9. avatar deta says:
    March 27th, 2012 at 3:24 pm

    Can you imagine applying that principle to solving a math problem or designing an air plane wing! You can not claim that 2 + 2 = 22 simply because it “feels” right and therefore it is logical on a personal level.

    So, we cannot state that 2 + 2 = 22? Sigh. And they say we’re supposed to think out of box.

    Anyway, that’s an unfit analogy when you compare happiness with designing an air plane wing. Let me humbly repeat: there are different standards of reasoning for different situations. The logical reasoning and bias tolerance limits in designing an air plane wing or solving math equations will be different from those in determining someone’s happiness. There is a universal standard for the previous (and probably zero tolerance for bias), but not for the latter.

  10. avatar stevo says:
    March 27th, 2012 at 3:32 pm

    Well good luck telling yourself your happy, when you feel awful. I’m guessing the emotion will win that contest ;)

  11. avatar deta says:
    March 27th, 2012 at 3:51 pm

    Nice talking to you, Stevo. Have an awful day ;-)

  12. avatar stevo says:
    March 27th, 2012 at 3:53 pm

    It works both ways. I am having a great day, it would not be logically or emotionally right to feel differently. No doubt that news may ruin your day however :)

  13. avatar deta says:
    March 27th, 2012 at 4:01 pm

    I am having a great day

    Although that’s logically impossible, I am emotionally happy for you. :D

  14. avatar bluemoejoe says:
    March 27th, 2012 at 8:40 pm

    evening DETA and may peace be upon you

    Being apathetic too is often mistaken as ikhlas. And that kind of ikhlas doesn’t pay the bills (and the increasing price of BBM) :(

    well …. sister . if that is the true meanings for ” ikhlas ” … then i’ve left this forsaken beliefs for goods . but thanks god …. most of us take the other ones though (meanings)

    human are unique creatures for sometimes we wish things we don’t need and forsake things that we haves without some consideration upon others

    it’s a human nature for seeking the betters of everything and even “allah” commands us to …. for he not gonna changes those who never exert and attempt .
    just thrust hards and gives you all mights ….and let him decides what’s better suited for you without some grudges at all ( that’s the hardest part and lifetime journeys for a true moslems ideals )
    for we are simply a humble human before him trying to understand all of things that beyond our comprehensions . sometimes he points a way …and sometimes he keeps thing secrets for a while but stills he is emphasize on an attempt
    ( the only attempts forbade by him …. was an understanding about mystique …. )

    oh yes it was easier to said than doings it …. but bitching around without trying something surely wont change the equations either ….

    salam

  15. avatar agan says:
    March 28th, 2012 at 10:25 am

    You can not claim that 2 + 2 = 22 simply because it “feels” right and therefore it is logical on a personal level.

    So, we cannot state that 2 + 2 = 22? Sigh.
    And they say we’re supposed to think out of box.

    Rubbish, everybody knows 2+2=22 (big brother said so)
    And here is the proof and I’m typing very slowly:

    2+2=22
    or 4=22

    Let’s take a 5th. Grade’s simple algebraic equation a+b=c
    multiply each side (left and right) with any random number (except 0 of course) and the equation will still be valid, so for shit and giggle I choose, say 18 as multiplier then

    18 (a+b)=18 (c)
    18a+18b=18c

    Using similar logic above this can also be written as:
    22a-4a + 22b-4b = 22c-4c

    Rearrange the numbers:
    22a+22b-22c = 4a+4b-4c

    Factorize the equation:
    22(a+b-c) =4(a+b-c)

    Remove the same term from each side and voila!

    22=4

    “Stinking inside the Pool”

  16. avatar stevo says:
    March 28th, 2012 at 10:41 am

    I hope you don’t design aircraft wings Agan. With skills like that you should be working for the government. You could even prove there is no corruption and that all money is properly accounted for.

  17. avatar deta says:
    March 28th, 2012 at 12:34 pm

    Interesting, kang Agan, but let me put my counter argument :

    Factorize the equation:
    22(a+b-c) =4(a+b-c)

    At this point, you cannot remove the term (a+b-c) from each side, because when a+b=c, then (a+b-c) = 0

    Removing the term (a+b-c) from both sides will be similar to removing 0 from the equation: 22 x 0 = 4 x 0, and concluding that 22 = 4.

    Although that’s “logically” right, some people will be “unhappy” about it :)

  18. avatar agan says:
    March 28th, 2012 at 8:05 pm

    ^Aww dang it, ceu Deta you are smarter than a 5th. Grader
    And Stevo no bintang for you, sunshine.

    Me joined kang Bluemoejoe (samsu+kapal api)-ing in the cozy corner.

  19. avatar deta says:
    March 30th, 2012 at 7:31 am

    Thank you, Agan, I guess I am now officially entitled to design a rocket. Wikkiki…

  20. avatar stevo says:
    March 30th, 2012 at 8:11 am

    The answer is simple. It’s the hormones talkin…
    I guess I am now officially entitled to design a rocket.

    Yeah I can’t wait to see what a rocket would look like, designed by a hormonal Indonesian girl !

  21. avatar deta says:
    March 30th, 2012 at 12:20 pm

    Ouch! Sexist joke is just as bad as racist joke, Stevo. But if that can make you “happy”….

  22. avatar stevo says:
    April 11th, 2012 at 5:11 am

    And just as funny deta… Of course woman have a terrible sense of humour, so thats probably lost on you. I think it is because woman tend to take everything as a personal comment and are essentially inward looking. This reality is well understood by the worlds oldest developed cultures, where woman are viewed rather differently than they are in West.

    There is so much accumulated wisdom, over-looked by the Eurocentric West….. don’t you think deta?…

  23. avatar stevo says:
    April 11th, 2012 at 5:17 am

    PS.

    I note that Saudi Arabia is ahead of Sweden in the happiness rating, so it seems the facts support my observation lol :)

  24. avatar deta says:
    April 11th, 2012 at 4:37 pm

    Of course woman have a terrible sense of humour, so thats probably lost on you.

    Not “terrible”, Stevo, just “different”, and your joke was not lost. My first reaction reading your comment was LMAO, but of course, as a self proclaimed (ahem, cough, cough!) feminist, I had to hide it behind the screen. :)

    This reality is well understood by the worlds oldest developed cultures, where woman are viewed rather differently than they are in West.

    While the oldest developed cultures understand that men and women are biologically and psychologically different, they (deliberately) fail to understand that such differences shouldn’t dismiss the right of every citizen to have fair share of opportunity in civil and legal matters.

    I note that Saudi Arabia is ahead of Sweden in the happiness rating, so it seems the facts support my observation lol

    Most of the participants must’ve been males.

  25. avatar stevo says:
    April 12th, 2012 at 4:50 am

    Good reply deta. You got me ;)

    You have made a very accurate and concise summary on all points. Clearly I will have to try harder to stir-you-up. Your not as hysterical as some “feminists”. There needs to be a few more like you.

  26. avatar bonni says:
    April 12th, 2012 at 4:40 pm

    Stevo, enough with the logic. I’ve known you as the hopeless romantic possibly-loveable man from other thread here. And surely the feminists have nothing to do with it.

    *enjoying a glass of canadian red wine*

  27. avatar stevo says:
    April 13th, 2012 at 6:24 am

    Why not Aussie wine bonni, they make some great reds? It is one of the few good things to come from that penal colony.

    Do you know why it is so hard to get decent affordable wine in Indonesia? A good friend returned home and was reduced to drinking – terrible -wine from a cardboard box and beer. The stuff in the box was the worst I have ever tasted.

  28. avatar bonni says:
    April 18th, 2012 at 5:35 pm

    Stevo,

    Cause it’s my favorite one. Haven’t tasted aussie wine yet. Yeah, it’s not cheap to get the best one… But still they say we are the world’s happiest people! Woot woot! :D

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