Flood Disaster

Dec 6th, 2007, in IM Posts, by

Doomsayers predict disaster for Indonesia as sea levels rise.

As last week tides burst through sea walls, briefly cutting a key access road to Jakarta's international airport, some predictions for Indonesia if sea levels rise, from the UN climate change conference on Bali:

  • Jakarta airport to be under water by 2035.
  • about 25% of Jakarta will vanish by 2050.
  • Surabaya and Semarang will be almost permanently flooded by 2080.
  • the capital will have to be moved to Bandung.
  • 2,000 islands will be lost by 2030.
  • 400,000 sq km of land mass lost by 2080, including about 10% of Papua, and 5% of both Java and Sumatra (on the north coast).

Says Nicholas Stern, author of the Stern Report on climate change (2006):

Island states are very vulnerable to sea level rise and very vulnerable to storms. Indonesia is particularly vulnerable.

Environment Minister Rachmat Witoelar raised fears of chaos:

Tens of millions of people would have to move out of their homes. There is no way this will happen without conflict. The cost would be very high. Imagine, it's not just about building better infrastructure, but we'd have to relocate people and change the way people live.

According to a U.N. climate report, temperatures are likely to rise by between 1.1 and 6.4 degrees Celsius (2.0 and 11.5 degrees Fahrenheit) and sea levels by between 18 cm and 59 cm (seven and 23 inches) within this century.

Armi Susandi, a meteorologist at the Bandung Institute of Technology, estimates sea levels would rise by an average of 0.5cm a year until 2080, while the submersion rate in Jakarta, which lies just above sea level, would be higher at 0.87 cm a year.

Indonesia would become poorer due to loss of islands, because access to mineral resources would become more difficult, or impossible, he said, with 5% being shaved off annual GDP, before even taking into account the loss of property and jobs as millions move from low-lying coastal areas to cities and towns on higher ground.

An IIED study said that there are about 42 million people in Indonesia living in areas less than 10 meters above the average sea level, who could be acutely affected by rising sea levels.

A separate study by the United Nations Environment Programme in 1992 showed in two districts in Java alone, rising waters could deprive more than 81,000 farmers of their rice fields or prawn and fish ponds, while 43,000 farm labourers would lose their job. [1]

This article in Indonesian - Bencana Banjir.


28 Comments on “Flood Disaster”

  1. avatar Sputjam says:
    December 6th, 2007 at 1:11 pm

    Dam the straits of malacca, fill it up with earth from mountainous regions in sumatra and you have access to malaysia and millions of hectares of new farmable land.

    Or better still turn the ocean into tomorrows farmland. Have floating fish and vegetable farms using reverse osmosis to get the fresh water.

    The doomsday cult exist by earning their keeps by scarring the masses. Remember Y2K?

  2. avatar ecky says:
    December 6th, 2007 at 1:33 pm

    I think it’s real not only scarring the masses, it’s happening.

    It’s time to do something, go green!

    Try with small thing like plant the tree around the house, turn off the lights when you’re not at home or sleep, try to minimize car usage around the town (I don’t know how to do it with bad pollution in Jakarta).

    And stop deforestation!

  3. avatar iamisaid says:
    December 6th, 2007 at 3:14 pm

    Quote :

    “I think it’s real not only scarring the masses, it’s happening.

    It’s time to do something, go green!” Unquote.

    Indeed. From news about the invasion of the sea at various coastal areas around the world it supports what these experts say. Thailand, as an example, is experiencing it. Sadly, it is too late for containment action over there. Those affected have to start anew elsewhere.

    Do you think starting a house-boat business is a good idea? 20 years hence is not too far off.

  4. avatar raden says:
    December 6th, 2007 at 6:24 pm

    2,000 islands will be lost by 2030.

    So, we better sell just one of our Riau islands to the very rich Singapore, we take the $Bilion money now and let them enjoy for only the rest of 22 years, rather than get nothing 22 years later, we need the money now. Afterall the normal property lease tenure normally minimal 99 years, the 22 years is just 2/9 over normal market practice.

    National pride ? sounds beraucrate’s voice, we need food & money pak !

  5. avatar iamisaid says:
    December 6th, 2007 at 9:57 pm

    Methinks that in the years closing in on 2030 and onwards, no person in his/her right mind would want to be the President of Indonesia, Governor, Mayor, Army Chief, Navy Chief and so on.

    What is the capability in Indonesia to manage such a staggering calamity as experts foresay?

    In considering the massive human displacement at those densely populated areas and whatever else that is a part of that, it would throw the nation’s economy into mayhem.

  6. avatar Sputjam says:
    December 6th, 2007 at 11:39 pm

    When vikings staggered onto greenland, they could grow grapes there, hence the name. Now it is covered with ice all year round. Perhaps, it is just a natural phenomena, getting warmer and then colder. dinosausr were roaming in the artic at one time, which was a tropical zone.

  7. avatar iamisaid says:
    December 6th, 2007 at 11:51 pm

    When vikings staggered onto greenland, they could grow grapes there, hence the name. Now it is covered with ice all year round. Perhaps, it is just a natural phenomena, getting warmer and then colder. dinosausr were roaming in the artic at one time, which was a tropical zone.

    Sputjam, that is an interesting point.

    I keep learning more and more – like about the Vikings and Greenland.

  8. avatar Dragonwall says:
    December 7th, 2007 at 1:28 am

    I think starting boat people like the early days of Hongkong. Better still built houses that could float. Indonesia is not getting anywhere. Given Indonesia 100 billion in rescue funds won’t help. The ever greedy ready to scavange on any s41t that was given to Indonesia. I guess Jakarta has to start building more canals to release the downpour, from Bogor everywhere. Worst still if the flood comes together with a tsunami. Can’t imagine the outcome with seas of floating carcasses.

  9. avatar Jennie S. Bev views from SF » Blog Archive » Coastal Countries, Beware says:
    December 7th, 2007 at 1:37 am

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  10. avatar WP says:
    December 7th, 2007 at 7:01 pm

    What is the capability in Indonesia to manage such a staggering calamity as experts foresay?

    Zero.

    The politics do not even realize the full gravity of the problem. Another disaster awaiting is the energy crisis. With no leadership, there isn’t going to be much happening.

    Maybe we should start an Internet movement to draw their attention. Something like what Al Gore did with his Inconvenient Truth, but for Indonesia.

  11. avatar iamisaid says:
    December 7th, 2007 at 7:39 pm

    Hello WP

    You said : “Maybe we should start an Internet movement to draw their attention. Something like what Al Gore did with his Inconvenient Truth, but for Indonesia.”

    me : Should such a movement be established, count me in. I will be happy to render support and assistance.

  12. avatar Marisa Duma says:
    December 7th, 2007 at 8:42 pm

    The doomsday cult exist by earning their keeps by scarring the masses. Remember Y2K?

    And also the forthcoming of Planet Niburu/planet X on 2020. :mrgreen:

    Global warming, the sinking earth, tsunamis, earthquakes, traffic jams, …

    ..sigh
    I better stay home tonight..

  13. avatar WP says:
    December 7th, 2007 at 11:05 pm

    I better stay home tonight..

    Keep a rubber boat at home too. A bed with steel enforced caging is also not a bad idea, in case we have quake. Finally, keep your joging exercise at the highest level, in case fuel crisis hits tomorrow.

    :)

  14. avatar dewaratugedeanom says:
    December 8th, 2007 at 12:26 am

    Sputjam said

    The doomsday cult exist by earning their keeps by scarring the masses. Remember Y2K?

    I agree. Climate change is a natural phenomenon and has occurred numerous times during earth’s history. Human activity may have an impact, but according to some scientists only to a minimal extent. They even argue that examination of ice cores from the poles reveals that the increase of greenhouse gases in the atmosphere is the result of global warming instead of vice versa.

    However, more dangerous calamities may occur for which there is no cure. Like a collision with big meteorites or the disappearing of the earth’s magnetic field due to changes in the iron core of the earth. Especially the latter is reason for concern because the solar wind which is now deflected by the magnetic shield will kill everything on the surface.

    Maybe we should go underground, or make a donation to NASA and reestablish the Empire of Majapahit in a far away galaxy.

    P.S. We can also start repenting our sins and embrace the One and True Religion. :-(

  15. avatar Dragonwall says:
    December 8th, 2007 at 12:52 am

    Well said iamisaid, in fact I had wrote an article in a drive against bribery, corruption and discrimination but I didn’t see that anywhere in the blog. I guess the moderator could be busy.
    and this morning pacific time 0930 i emailed the moderator again and asking him at the same time I wanted a blog to gather support where supporters will be directed to somewhere at the United Nation and Amnesty Iternational to assure the safety of supporters.
    This move is to get the International Community to exert pressure on SBY and the Indonesian Government to bring those corrupt Ministers and their clique to Justice. At the same time to bring criminal charges against those guilty of discrimination against humanity especially Indonesians.
    Siapa Takut.

  16. avatar Sputjam says:
    December 8th, 2007 at 1:12 am

    trust me folks. embracing a religion is itself a sin as it promotes some form of idol worship. The One true God merely wants mankind to behave on this world with high standards of morality and good behaviour.

    malays (and other natives of south east asia including the Thais, cambodians etc) solves problems differently from that of other races by “merging” with nature. hence malays do not build dams and bunds to control flow of water in river, but uses houses on stilts to minimise damage.
    Therefore, if the water level rises, more “kampung laut” will be formed. Or even flaoting houses, anchored to the seabed for stability. Whatever it is, when the time comes, we should not depend on the govenrment for solutions, but on our own creative talent to seek the best solution.

  17. avatar Stefan says:
    December 8th, 2007 at 5:11 am

    Sputjam wrote:

    When vikings staggered onto greenland, they could grow grapes there, hence the name. Now it is covered with ice all year round. Perhaps, it is just a natural phenomena, getting warmer and then colder. dinosausr were roaming in the artic at one time, which was a tropical zone.

    It’s not exactly true. The Vikings had a colony on Newfoundland which they called “Vinland”. Thuis name is usually translated as Wine Land but it can also mean Grass Land.

    Around the year 1000 AD it was about 0.6 degrees warmer than 2006. Afterwards the global average temperature dropped about 2 degrees. But for that it took 500 years. It remained on the low level for a few centuries and thin it rofe for 1.6 gegrees between 1800 and 1940. Then it dropped again 0.2 degrees until 1980. After 1980 it rose 0.6 degrees in just 25 years. Through the entife history on earth the concentration of CO2 has never been higher than 300 ppmv. But currently it’s 400 ppmv.

  18. avatar guebukanmonyet says:
    December 8th, 2007 at 8:00 am

    This is way too scary! Oh my God. Can someone do something? I mean, Jakarta will be gone by the next couple of years. That’s amazing. C’mon, the government is so STUPID. They keep building malls and never pay attention to our rivers and other environmental resources. And the people are stupid too, we never respect environment. Damn.

    Jakarta need a cultural revolution!
    http://www.jakartabutuhrevolusibudaya.com

  19. avatar dewaratugedeanom says:
    December 9th, 2007 at 4:07 pm

    Lately they found out that the newest culprit for the increase of methane (which is also a greenhouse gas) in the earth’s atmosphere and hence for global warming are cows (and by extension all ruminants). Not so much because of the dung they produce, but because they breathe out lots of methane while ruminating. Each cow produces the same amount of greenhouse gases as a car with an average mileage of 18000 km/year. This phenomenon caught the attention since milk production in the world is rapidly rising due to increased demand from China. It seems studies are underway to restrict the free roaming of cows in meadows and force them to be stabled so that the methane can be collected and used for energy production.

    As a consequence the cowboy profession will become obsolete. But our Minister of Tourism Jero Wacik has already proposed to retrain them to be employed as Kuta cowboys in Bali in an attempt to revitalize the tourist industry.

  20. avatar iamisaid says:
    December 9th, 2007 at 4:41 pm

    dewaratugedeanom said : “Lately they found out that the newest culprit for the increase of methane (which is also a greenhouse gas) in the earth’s atmosphere and hence for global warming are cows”

    me : WOW !

  21. avatar TheWrathOfGrapes says:
    December 10th, 2007 at 12:31 pm

    Lately they found out that the newest culprit for the increase of methane (which is also a greenhouse gas) in the earth’s atmosphere and hence for global warming

    dewaratugedeanom, I thought you were going to say “is Achmad Sudarsono” due to his constant release of hot air…

    ;)

  22. avatar parvita says:
    December 10th, 2007 at 12:48 pm

    This global warming thing has really got into everybody but I think it is really overrated. Sea level rise, we are talking about geologic time scale, guys, which is….millions of years!

    As for Jakarta, there is just no planning at all. They shouldn’t build houses at Kapuk, Sunter, Kelapa Gading, that is ‘daerah resapan’. Is there something we can do? Yes. Destroy Sunter, Kelapa Gading, Pluit, Kapuk houses and buildings area and plant trees over there. As far as I know there are more building in Kelapa Gading area. This happens when personal interest overrule the public interest, i.e. government get bonuses from developer and overrule the Jakarta planning (if any).

  23. avatar iamisaid says:
    December 13th, 2007 at 11:20 pm

    Gore: US blocking climate talks progress

    “BALI, Indonesia – Nobel laureate Al Gore accused the United States on Thursday of blocking progress at the U.N. climate conference, and European nations threatened to boycott U.S.-led climate talks next month unless Washington compromises on emissions reductions.”

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/bali_climate_conference

    Gore still has his way to get even with Bush.
    One up for the Democrats.

    LOL!

  24. avatar Dragonwall says:
    December 23rd, 2007 at 2:49 am

    Yes. Destroy Sunter, Kelapa Gading, Pluit, Kapuk houses and buildings area and plant trees over there.

    In the late 80′s I was staying in Rawamangun there were no houses in Kelapa Gading.
    When before Pantai Indah Kapuk was constructed there were no flood at all.

    When they build the Soedyatmo Toll there were actually specific instructions that along the toll there should be no houses and yet PIK was allowed to build. Most of all they even block the waterway to the sea that is why the big flood in the north sides.
    Now even the toll is sinking. The engineers who build the toll on float and with that much water unable to flow to the sea thus eroding the soil beneath causing the toll to snake up and down. I think one day the toll will break.

    There were no flood in Pluit or Muara Karang before PIK, Sunter and Kelapa Gading.
    The people to be blame are from the Walikota for allowing them to carry on such constructions. All because of money. The Greed that were in these people in government offices that cause such disastrous aftermath. The chain reaction, being further boosted by the waters from Bogor and Bandung gushing to Jakarta after torential rains that battered Indonesia.

    The government needs to know where the problems derive from, otherwise there shall be no ends to that.

  25. avatar raden says:
    December 24th, 2007 at 1:47 pm

    In Jakarta, without having global warming effects & without waiting for the year 2035 to come, today we saw flood water everywhere … yes our annual flood is coming to town again, repeating year after year … this is the self explanatory why the country never progressing … regardless what political systems & election processes were chosen & who the leader’s promises are, we have zero progress here.

  26. avatar Dragonwall says:
    December 25th, 2007 at 5:52 am

    If they have a little care and tenderness. Things could turned out better. So far after Sutiyoso stepped down we have not seen any drastic change by this new Governor. Or perhaps he is another good for nothing seat warmer.

  27. avatar vigilanteman says:
    February 2nd, 2008 at 6:39 am

    indeed all the blame of the flooding can laid upon the government of indonesia.
    for 30 yrs the country was ruled by a bunch of hungry for money wolves.
    there was no good planning in infrastructure, urbanization.
    its not because the ppl are not capable in running the country but there is a total lack of responsibility.

    jakarta has a new governor…
    i wonder what he has to say about the new desaster…
    but as usual many of these ppl only are only capable in dumb statments…

    ask the dutch for help….

    or are indonesian to proud for it…

  28. avatar raden says:
    February 6th, 2008 at 10:03 am

    We ve seen KL, Bkk, Shanghai & Singapore international airport is getting higher & bigger with higher & wider high-way and integrated mass transport system. But look at our Cengkareng airport is getting deeper drown & surrounded by flood water, the flood level is higher & wider like Porong mud flow. What’s wrong with us unless something wrong with the genes & mentality ?



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