Al-Qiyadah Al-Islamiyah

Oct 10th, 2007, in News & Issues, by Patung

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Cukurungan Says:
November 2nd, 2007 at 7:53 am
Cuk, I personally think that radical, blow people up, jihad version of Islam is more damaging to Islam than this sect. Don’t you think so? If not Why??

Al-Qiyadah is the traitor of our belief and not yours belief therefore we will take care them by ourself whereas the suicide bomber are a criminal even whithout asking the police and authority has much stronger power and tools to handle them and soons the bali bomber will get what the deserved. So far I knows there is no single word from Ulama or Muslim institution saying “Death Penalties for them are againts humanity and only God has the rights to take a life”.

You can compare it with “TIBO and His friend Prosecution Case”, the World at that time were full of such noise (“Death Penalties for them are againts humanity and only God has the rights to take a life”) from people who call them self as champion of humanity and the religion tolerance …but …why for the bali bomber case all of those noise was gone…why like that…is it because the innocent live of poso santri and muslim are less worthy than the bule life??….come on
Timetraveler Says:
November 2nd, 2007 at 8:23 am
Aren’t there bigger problems in this country than a group of misled people?
Cukurungan said they practice a fake Islam. Sorry, there is only Islam, no fake Islam! But there are fake Muslims! Like the one who stole 49 Mill. US$ from the subsidies for the Hatch-flights, like the ones who loose 2 Mill. US$ at gambling in Las Vegas while millions of people in our country are extremely poor, like all those who pray 5 times a day but have open hands for the bribes of the international Companies who exploit our country and leave only sampa for our children!
We must see who and where the real enemies are! Because they also endanger the Islam in our country!
Timetraveler Says:
November 2nd, 2007 at 8:25 am
Sorry, I was wrong! He only stole 40 Mill US$!!!!
microwave Says:
November 2nd, 2007 at 10:42 pm
Timetraveler Says:
Aren’t there bigger problems in this country than a group of misled people?

However, misled people are also dangerous as well as corrupt people. It will be the same.

like all those who pray 5 times a day but have open hands for the bribes of the international Companies

So you said, it is better not to pray at all? (need confirmation)

There is no guarantee that people who pray can never do mistake. every bribery matter should be punished. and he also has right to seek forgiveness. of course the punishment should go along.

I myself want every corrupt people in this country, whatever the religion,race, or group, to be punished and their assets should be nullified, without that they will be still rich after staying in jail.

Btw, recent posting is starting out of topic. Thank you
syafina bajeri Says:
November 3rd, 2007 at 12:46 pm
Actually the Great Al Qur’an urges us to think critically. Many times in it’s verses mentions syamsa wal qomarro, the sun and the moon. Think of it, many times ago ancient people worshipped them as goddess. And Qur’an says they are just creation of the Almighty Allah. And that teaching which worships the other prophet, Allah forgive me, that prophet which his follower wordship him as god, actually manifestation of the sun god! MasyaAllah! Those infidels must be influenced by pagan teachings! And Allah says those who lost and still don’t want to think critically will be lost forever. Poor them, they read Al Qur’an, but still could be influenced by lunatic! A satan’s follower! Audzubillah min dzalik!!
dewaratugedeanom Says:
November 4th, 2007 at 4:04 pm
Cukurungan said

is it because the innocent live of poso santri and muslim are less worthy than the bule life??”¦.come on

Is it because the innocent lives of three Christian schoolgirls from Sulawesi are less worthy than the Muslim life of Hasanuddin and friends who got only between 14 and 20 years for beheading these girls as an Idul Fitri present??….come on.
Are there any muslim organizations that have protested against this ridiculously low sentence?
Idam H. Says:
November 4th, 2007 at 7:42 pm
Yes, just hate and kill each others o human being, all in the name of Allah. Spreading your hate. Kill others to defend your Allah. Surely your version of Allah will grant you heaven after you all die. Then you will find out whether your Allah is truly God, but probably it’s too late.

HERE IS ANOTHER IGNORANCE
Marissa says

Everything have the own philosophical basic thinking. Wa are talking about Islamic Religion. It has own methodology and way of thinking. If we will discuss about this case, please make an agreement first. What methodology that will be used. Islamic pointview or others?

I’ll give you all the basic principle of way of thinking that agreed by all Moslem Schoolars for the first generations until now.

>>> Are you sure the principle is agreed by all Moslem Scholars? This kind of claim will definitely always wrong. Quran and Hadits are written in human language so they are subject to interpretations. Don’t you know that there are many interpretations of Islam, if not there would not be many different sects in Islam (whether you acknowledge it or not).
Paijo Says:
November 5th, 2007 at 10:13 am
How come no one ever think they’re Buddha? Always Mohammed or Jesus.

Because he is less popular my dear.
wegayendi Says:
November 5th, 2007 at 11:28 am
Five questions enough for all Al qiyadah matters:
1. Who really is Mushadek?
2. What kind of motive is really driving his Al Qiyadah?
3. Where do his funding (money) come from?
4. Who or what printing house had printed the Mushadek’s version of Quran?
5. Why the Al Qiyadah recruitment targets are Moslems? Not Christians, Budhist, Hinduist?
The Punisher Says:
November 6th, 2007 at 3:45 pm
KIL EM ALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL!!!!!
Rabbani Says:
November 6th, 2007 at 4:34 pm
Sure, we will do something to Mushadeq and some top level of Qiyadah Al Islamiyah.
Janma Says:
November 6th, 2007 at 5:23 pm
THE PUNISHER SAID;

KIL EM ALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL!!!!!

AND RABBANI SAYS;

Sure, we will do something to Mushadeq and some top level of Qiyadah Al Islamiyah.

can’t you just feel the love!? It’s just so heart warming….
I have a new theory, I don’t think it’s religion that makes men violent…. I think men just ARE violent and relgion is the perfect vehicle for it’s expression. They probably invented it for that…. kind of like smackdown….
dewaratugedeanom Says:
November 7th, 2007 at 10:18 pm
THE PUNISHER SAID;

KIL EM ALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL!!!!!

AND RABBANI SAYS;

Sure, we will do something to Mushadeq and some top level of Qiyadah Al Islamiyah

How brave! Reminds me of the FPI mobs destroying foodstalls during ramadan. I wonder if these guys would talk the same language if there were a few million followers of Qiyadah Al Islamiyah.
Cukurungan Says:
November 8th, 2007 at 6:42 am
How brave! Reminds me of the FPI mobs destroying foodstalls during ramadan. I wonder if these guys would talk the same language if there were a few million followers of Qiyadah Al Islamiyah.

At this time agree with you that those guys was a voicing chicken tone.

I will give them a better word : In dealing wit Al Qiyadah we should use prinsip of 3D:
1) Debate
2) Destroy
3) Dialog
Cukurungan Says:
November 8th, 2007 at 6:59 am
D 1st Debate >we will debate first among us how to destroy them effectively
D 2nd Destroy >we will destroy them until the root
D 3rd Dialog >we will encourage dialog among us to find place for the burial of their remain.
Janma Says:
November 8th, 2007 at 11:00 am
glad that you clarified there Cuk, was wondering how you were going to achieve dialogue after destruction….
dewaratugedeanom Says:
November 10th, 2007 at 5:24 pm
Cukurungan said

D 1st Debate >we will debate first among us how to destroy them effectively
D 2nd Destroy >we will destroy them until the root
D 3rd Dialog >we will encourage dialog among us to find place for the burial of their remain.

Islam, the Religion of Peace.
Pena Budaya Says:
February 14th, 2008 at 9:24 pm
I don’t get it.

I thought it will be splendid idea to have prophet who is coming from Indonesia like Ahmad Moshaddeq. Why should we have imported prophets and trust their teachings?
amin Says:
March 6th, 2008 at 9:58 am
God can be explained in human words. Our words are too limited and our logics is too little Almighty God. Try to feel in the words of God (love)
mudzakir Says:
March 21st, 2008 at 3:45 pm
bismillahirrahmanirrahiim
assalamu’alaikum ww.
well all Al qiyadah can say anything for their “truth”
what I believe in Abu Bakar ra time once there was another person who claim himself as another prophet after Muhammad SAW just like “moshadeq does”, what do you know? .. Abu Bakar ra … fight them and kill them? as Muhammad said that tabiin was guarranted by him to go to heaven … I don’t wanna against Rasulullah SAW and his tabiin …. so if Abu Bakar ra can … why can’t we? …
as far as I know … we’ve been taught to care each other as muslims (who only use Quran and Hadits as Dalil” for Taurat, or injil Allah told us just to believe once that they have exist, but Allah himself said Taurat and injil have been rewritten and changes by human so nowadays you can’t find the original taurat of moses? or injil of jesus not lukas, matius, yohannes etc ..)
and we must fight all non moslem who make a joke and harrash islam, act because of hatred, and treat us like an enemy…”remember kafir jimni and kafir harbi thing?” as far as I’m concerned I won’t do anything to you, if Al Qiyadah said we’re new religion but like Ahmadiyah you put islam as a disguise if you brave enough don’t hide behind islam it’s a disgrace for us when Abu Bakar himself fight musailamah Al kadzab and we don’t …. just don’t take islam name in your act … coz we have nothing in common… muslim shalat you’re not, tabiin fight fake prophet you’re not we don’t even have the same sahadah so back OUT!!! I’ll Kill YOu myself!!!! with my own hand just like Abu Bakar ra did for everyone who dare to call themselves as the last prophet
May Allah be with us
wassalamu’alaikum ww