To combat the problem of heresy Ikhwan Syam said the MUI needed a lot more money, and he hoped the Department of Religion would not be stingy in handing out more cash. [4]
More money to be corrupted as well.
Hasyim Muzadi of Nahdlatul Ulama (NU) said on 3rd November that claiming to be a prophet was not a human right and such people should be punished.
And what, he thinks he’s the man to do it? They’re the men to do it? What happened to God punishing the sinners?
And why isn’t Basyir on their ‘sesat’ list?
The burning of worship places, are they not also on “SESAT” list.
Patung said it all in the heading:
The MUI rides the anti-heretic wave to more money and influence.
This is not about religious conviction or trying to guide the people it is purely and simply about Riches and Money.
The more things change the more they stay the same.
Peace
You guys know nothing….
Sorry, that should have read Riches and Power!
Dusty said:
You guys know nothing”¦.
So….., if you are any more knowledgable, please……. enlighten us!
Peace
SBY said : “SBY also said he supported the MUI’s forbidding of the following things: alternative medicine and mysticism, sexual immorality, gambling, alcohol, drugs, pornography, corruption, violence against women and children, copyright violations, and all sort of crime generally.”
iamisaid says : DANG ! that’s a mouthful.
Seven former Al Qiyadah Al Islamiah followers in Makassar, South Sulawesi were publicly “re-Islamized” on 2nd November.
Wow sounds a lot like Communist “re-education”, ya?
When will Indonesia get its head out of its arse? What needs to happen???
SBY also said he supported the MUI’s forbidding of the following things: alternative medicine and mysticism, sexual immorality, gambling, alcohol, drugs, pornography, corruption, violence against women and children, copyright violations, and all sort of crime generally.
“Forbid mysticism!” Says he who regularly visits Imogiri and gua Semar in Dieng and have several orang pintar in his back …..
And what MUI got to do with medicine & health?
And the rest aren’t they the jobs for Department of Justice and the Police?
Maybe we should disband the Police, Department of Justice and Department of Public Health and let MUI do their Job. Less bureaucrats, less corruptions.
Yeah right …………….!!
I predict a fatwa from the MUI which will declare that anything that’s enjoyable will be considered haram too.
MUI shouldn’t forbid a damn thing! There are laws and everybody should abide by them.. and some obscure wannabe arabs should really not have any influence at all.
They can issue fatwa’s whatever they want… but its REALLY tragic that SBY is actually “supporting” them… SBY is a disappointment in a long row of disappointments
It is heartening to note that some Al Qidayeh people are refusing to knuckle under, so far, to the bigots – in the regime as well as the MUI zealots’ council – but these brave souls will probably share the fate of the Ahmaddiyah group in Lombok who are still in makeshift accommodation more than a year after primitive thugs drove them from their homes. Despite plenty of media being present on that occasion, with lots of footage of the louts’ ugly fizzogs, police action has been prominent by its almost total absence and instead of living up to the Pancasila philosophy of pluralism which allegedly inspires this country’s constitution, the authorities have permitted the hoodlum elements to have their way.
Incidentally, let’s not ignore Jakarta’s new Governor, Fauzi Bowo, who has betrayed his pre-election declarations of fair play and pluralism by siding with the forces of darkness. It was the Jakarta Provincial Prosecutor’s Office that ‘ pioneered the use of the MUI’s edict to ban the sect’s existence in the capital.’ ( JP 8/11/07)
State Intelligence would help in the job of encouraging them to repent.
I guess they were also trying to help Munir becoming a good Indonesian citizen and patriot???
Teng said:
I predict a fatwa from the MUI which will declare that anything that’s enjoyable will be considered haram too.
Well, MUI did not ban smoking. They reasoned that the huge cigarette industry in Indonesia feeds tens of thousands of people and a ban would severely impact the wefare of the people. Using this line of argument MUI should also not ban alcohol, alternative medicine and mysticism, sexual immorality, gambling, alcohol, drugs, pornography, copyright, and – most importantly – corruption.
Sir, i want to ask, do you know i-doser? Is that haram? If not i will tell it here…For shortly, I-doser is a digital drugs. Yes, digital drugs, but..The reason i ask why it haram because it is not drinked or inject like other, but hear. Yeah, hear. By using headphones, this ‘sound drugs’ can make the user feel happy. So, it is? Thanks.
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