Sutiyoso

Oct 2nd, 2007, in News, by

Soon to be ex-Governor of Jakarta, Sutiyoso, intends to run for president.

Jakarta Governor Sutiyoso announced on 1st October that he was likely to run in the 2009 presidential election.

Sutiyoso
Sutiyoso, looking presidential.

He told a gathering of hundreds of people attending his "political declaration" at the Four Seasons Hotel in South Jakarta that after 10 years as Jakarta's governor he was ready to lead the country, 2009- 2014.

I dare to name myself a presidential candidate because, first, I've received support from a number of political parties and leading figures, especially in the last year. Secondly, because I feel called on to continue serving the country.

He said among groups that had approached him were several small, older political parties and some new parties, however, he refused to provide any names.

Sutiyoso also suggested that he had the support of the military for his presidential bid.

Try Sutrisno, a vice president under Soeharto and the current chairman of the Armed Forces Veterans Association, attended the occasion, as did former president Abdurrahman "Gus Dur" Wahid, and the heads of a number of political parties and several Muslim clerics.

Sutiyoso said that if elected one of his main priorities would be implementing regional autonomy "according to existing regulations". He also said that despite having spent the last 10 years running Jakarta, he had countrywide name recognition and popularity.

Thanks to the press, people in other regions know me quite well because of abundant news about me in a lot of mass media.

Of Sutiyoso's likely prospects in 2009 Jeffrie Geovanie of The Indonesian Institute said much depended on Sutiyoso's choice of a running mate, and that this person needed to be non-Javanese and an Islamic figure. Possible candidates for the job included Muhamadiyah leader Din Syamsuddin, Constitutional Court head Jimly Asshiddiqie, and President of the Justice Party/Partai Keadilan Sejahtera (PKS) Tifatul Sembiring, Jeffrie said. suaramerdeka

Before his term as governor, Lieutenant General Sutiyoso spent 25 years in the Army's Special Forces, Kopassus, before several years as the Jakarta city military commander, when he was the immediate supervisor of president Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono. Most recently he inadvertently created a mini anti-Australian uproar over rude treatment he received while visiting Sydney.


28 Comments on “Sutiyoso”

  1. avatar iamisaid says:

    Soon to be ex-Governor of Jakarta, Sutiyoso, should take a cue from Shakespeare’s “Macbeth”

    “MACBETH : I have no spur
    To prick the sides of my intent, but only
    Vaulting ambition, which o’er-leaps itself,
    And falls on th’ other.”

  2. avatar Dragonwall says:

    Vaulting ambition, which o’er-leaps itself,
    And falls on th’ other.”

    A person with 25 years in the ABRI and 10 as governor and seeing that the current economic situation of Indonesian in such a predicament, wouldn’t you want to have a vaulting ambition? And with his experience will he over leaps itself?

    If Sutiyoso runs for presidency he will be a much stronger candidate than SBY. Forget about DS, JA and TS. Those are people that have not prove anything in this country and they will also be another failure. Forget about Islam. To run a country, religion had to be set aside.

    Experience is the main criteria. He should gather those who have strong will to provide better governance. Those who are in the cabinet should be dismiss with exception. All those that behaves like clown should be eliminated.

    Though I may not know Sutiyoso, but I give him 100% a better choice for the presidency comparing to Mega and the rest. But Gus Dur could be his best running mate in term of political endeavor. His influence could help compliment a better governance.

  3. avatar Dimp says:

    Well, he probably will have a good chance as most Indonesians vote based on charm and not merit.

  4. avatar Dragonwall says:

    Indonesians vote based on charm and not merit.

    If Indonesians were to vote on charm then it is about time, Indonesians learn to cultivate merit to decide their future. They are relying their everything, for generations to come, on the merit of their president to decide their fate.

    One wrong mistake, and it is all about ‘prestasi, citra dan wibawa bangsa Indonesia’. Don’t let mistake repeat and history rewritten.

    It is no longer the assimilation because history had them experienced the worst Indonesia had encountered like, G30S PKI. 1965 incidents, Order Baru, 1998 incidents, Civil Commotions, racial conflicts. All these were man made. Natural disaster are beyong human apprehension. But if a country prosper then any and all disaster could be overcome with minimal difficulties and of course without foreign aid. Indonesia will no longer needs to stretch their hands seeking assistance.

    Don’t let history repeat.

  5. avatar smirk says:

    I think a total o my god will be the most suitable comment ;]

  6. avatar iamisaid says:

    “A person with 25 years in the ABRI and 10 as governor and seeing that the current economic situation of Indonesian in such a predicament, wouldn’t you want to have a vaulting ambition? And with his experience will he over leaps itself?”
    (dragonwall)

    Granted that experience matters, Sutiyoso however, is not without blemish with regard to his integrity.

    For example :

    1. Jakarta Governor Sutiyoso was asked to testify at the NSW coronial inquiry into the 1975 Balibo killings in East Timor, rights groups expressed a somewhat different view. At a joint press conference in Jakarta on May 31, Indonesia’s NGO Coalition for International Human Rights Advocacy (Koalisi LSM) said that Sutiyoso should have been arrested for refusing the summons. According to deputy NSW state coroner Dorelle Pinch, Sutiyoso was allegedly part of Team Susi, one of the Indonesian military units in Balibo when the five Australian-based journalists were murdered. United Nations police, who in 2000 began a formal investigation into the killings, believe that Sutiyoso was one of several officers involved in the attack and other clandestine operations against Portuguese East Timor in 1975. In October of that year, Sutiyoso led an assault on the sleepy coastal town of Batugade in Timor, the first time that Jakarta had occupied and held a foreign town and the precursor to the full-scale invasion two months later.

    2. On August 30, some 200 victims of the July 27, 1996, military attack on the Indonesian Democratic Party (PDI) headquarters gathered in central Jakarta, demanding that the provincial government reject Jakarta Governor Sutiyoso’s accountability speech.
    According to Detik, they said that Sutiyoso “” who was commander of the Jakarta military district at the time “” was responsible for the bloody takeover of the PDI headquarters. At least 50 people were killed and hundreds injured during the attack.
    The demonstrators came from the July 27 Youth Movement, the Family 124 Communication Forum and the Jakarta Council of Reform Saviours. They carried banners reading “Sutiyoso = Dracula” and “Sutiyoso’s Hands Covered With Blood” and a 50-metre banner covered with signatures of people who supported an investigation into the July 27 incident.

    Furthermore, going by any comparitive analysis, what did Sutiyoso achieve during his tenure as Governor of Jakarta.
    It is commonly accepted that Jakarta paves the way for the rest of the country. Given the time that Sutiyoso had, any significant change in Jakarta for the better would have ripple effect for the rest of Indonesia. On the contrary, that did not happen during his governorship. Jakarta continues to be mired in all sorts of fundemental issues in his wake.

    This is merely about Jakarta. Is Sutiyoso able to deliver for an entire nation when in his wake Jakarta is still what we know it is then and now?

    “he probably will have a good chance as most Indonesians vote based on charm and not merit.”
    (dimp)

    From my past experience of how the electorate treat their individual vote in Indonesia, it is neither charm nor merit that decides at the poll.
    Simply and impurely, it is money politics right down to the grassroot level.
    Although the amount of money politics laundered before and after election campaigns will never be figured, it would not be incredulous to say that the amount would feed the entire nation’s poor and hungry for perhaps 5 continuous years.

  7. avatar Raden says:

    I prefer Sutiyoso than JK, so far I concluded the leaders with military backgrould & forward thinking attitude, at least are capable to talk consistently & ‘ora plin plan’ in the public speech

  8. avatar Andrew says:

    Indonesia is like a troubled teenager right now. Dealing with a troubled teenager, we need to be very decisive, and there’s really no point of giving full freedom as it will just further the destruction.

    Ironic but I want to say that we need an iron-fisted leader to bring us back where we was 10 years ago. There may be bad (and very bad) things about Suharto and his regime, but at least he managed to keep the general situation in order.

    We need stability (and maturity) before we can have full freedom. I tend to agree with Pak RADEN in that we need someone of military background. It’s not going to be as easy as the Suharto era, because foreign countries are more pesky these days about how democracy should be implemented…

  9. avatar Dragonwall says:

    Of all that was said with regards to Sutiyoso being summon and that he should face certain tribunal for his actions being the commander in the invasion of timor. Balibo, or the raid of PDI HQ.

    Can anyone name a commander in the military not doing this and that nothing had been done to have them tried in a military court martial. We put Human Rights and Democracy aside for a moment.

    If we refer to Human Rights then it has to be fair to all like, GAM, G30S PKi, whether which side you are fighting for it doesn’t matter. Because they were also victims besides those civilians. Starting from Suharto, Sumitra, Ishak Djuarsa, Murdani, Try Sutrisno, Wiranto, Syafrie Samsuddin, and the long list. tell me which one does not have a hand in a clandestine or coverted operation. This is not the main issue. When you are in that position you will be able to tell that you need to take tht action to justify the situation. If things had not been arouse then such incidents will not have arise.

    Tien An Men, Mongolia, Palestine, Irag Kuwait etc. When someone stage an action knowing that it will disturb the general public and provoked a civil commotion trying to undermine the stability of a nation what will you do. You will also do the same. When you are not there it is easier said than done. But when you were there then perhaps your action could be more detrimental than what happened.

    In running a country of 250 million with the majority under educated you need stern action to ensure the safety of others. In an conflict, war or civil commotion there are bound to have sacrifice. So you have the choice of stabilizing the situation of a country or what the rest is up to you.

    You have referred many occassion of his ill deeds but what about his good. Being a person making a decision you need to have the flair to give and take and weight the importance of which is to be the top priority. A decision was made and those involve in taking part in the protest were given ample opportunity to stand down which they were stubborn to refuse so the ultimate decision had to be carried out in order to quell the rebels.

    So which ever way you see in politics it is easier said. The US needs to get a resolutiion before going to war. At least they have to pass the congress to support the president’s decision. So when they decided on that does that mean these people are not democratic enough? Their minds were corrupted that they have to sacrifice much of their soldiers to protect a cause that might or might not benefit their cause?

    Like the 1998 anti Chinese riot in Indonesia. what happened. If you trace the root to the cause. Those that held high position will be incarcerated for the atrocities and crime against their own citizens. So can you name who were the commanders at that time. Not because Prabowo who was the then only Kopassus Commander left in Jakarta when Wiranto and his ole jing gang went to Malang for meeting when the coup d’etat took place. There is something wrong and it is very wrong. If you take a look at the video shots of helicopter hovering around Klender provoking rioters to rob. If you see the video if any of the rioters in action at Cengkareng when the Sampoerna Mall was burnt right in front closeby my house. People coming in container load being unloaded right in front of the Mall and started to burn tires and throwing stone then shouting to villagers to go in a rob only to find that the rolling doors were shut and people being burnt alive.

    What I am saying is that, not because I like Sutiyoso, because of his past. But now he seemed to be ther better choice person besides SBY. If he could re-enact what Soeharto had done, you will see a new Indonesia. Belief you me, you can’t be a bencong to be a president running a huge nation.
    One cannot always live in the past. If he cannot do what he promise then he is not a good president. But it seemed that he had all the necessary things to put him in that sit.

    Of course we all know in every nation vote buying is a norm. Just name one country that does not. Malaysia had UMNO be their side. Gus Dur had NU by his side. everyone does.

    See more towards the inside, the cause of his action, the results of the aftermath before a conclusion is made to determine a person deeds.

    Any candidate may promise Indonesia that they will do their best for the country. It is not good enough. How are you capable of doing that will by and large reflects on what action have you taken in the course of your duty in the past.

    Australia may want to stage a protest or do what they like, f**k them. They are good fo nothing mouth piecing commonwealth warmongers. Go back into history. What they are doing is to show the world they care so much about humans. But how much do they know of Indonesians. QE had not rule a nation this big with the majority Muslims under educated and easily provocated and coerced into destruction. Australian are more educated and able to weigh the rights and wrongs. So there is not much to compare. All of us wants to stand on the side of democracy, be respected of one’s own Human Rights. Who doesn’t want to live in a peaceful country. Are you easy with wars and civil commotions?

  10. avatar iamisaid says:

    Indonesia is like a troubled teenager right now. Dealing with a troubled teenager, we need to be very decisive, and there’s really no point of giving full freedom as it will just further the destruction.

    (Andrew)

    There is more to it than meets the mind’s eye when discussing Indonesia’s malaise. It is not as that simple as decisiveness or respecting individual rights and freedom.

    How can any leader in Indonesia make progress when more than half of this vast archipelago is teeming with people who are not able to raise their standard and their quality of life?

    As long as Indonesia has this vast majority of impoverished citizens who are being given casual attention by the leaders, it would be an illusion to believe that decisiveness and strong arm leadership will provide the solution.

    Although richly endowed both by nature and by human resource, Indonesia pillages itself by unwanton avarice of those at various positions of power.

    For example, I have met parents there who lament about having to pay large sums of money in order that their child finds a job. The parent borrows the amount. This in turn impoverishes the rest of the family life. And what happens next? The child is forced to take to corruption in order to settle the borrowed money as soon as it is possible.

    Ironic but I want to say that we need an iron-fisted leader to bring us back where we was 10 years ago. There may be bad (and very bad) things about Suharto and his regime, but at least he managed to keep the general situation in order.

    (Andrew)

    To cite Suharto is certainly not an acceptable standard for any future leader in Indonesia. While Suharto duped the masses by providing daily essentials such as rice and sugar, he went about his way plundering the wealth of the country.

    Suharto managed to keep the general situation in “order” by fear, force and brutality. Did Suharto being the longest ever serving President bring peace (not some pseudo peace I mean) and prosperity to his citizens?

    Indonesians whisper today about how people mysteriously disappeared from the land during Suharto’s reign. And the number of unaccounted disappearances were not small by any account.

  11. avatar Andrew says:

    iamisaid, I think we have different perceptions in terms of what must come first.

    A lot of issues stem from instability. How do you think Indonesia can make sure that wealth is distributed uniformly when there’s no stability or certainty in terms of political, economic and justice? how could we expect people to invest if there’s little assurance they would get their money back (let alone earn a profit).

    The first issue to be addressed isn’t the quality of life — quality of life is the destination. Stability is just the first step, a prerequisite for everything else.

    Income/wealth disparity in India and China is still wide, but how come they can be successful as a nation and Indonesia can’t? while there are still a lot of poor people in those countries, they managed to overcome most of the big issues, leaving them to focus on what matters most now.

    I never said that we should aim to adopt all of Suharto’s ways of ruling the country. I only implied that there were important traits from his style that proved to be successful in keeping stability alive in Indonesia.

  12. avatar iamisaid says:

    “iamisaid, I think we have different perceptions in terms of what must come first.”
    (Andrew)

    I would like to think that we are sharing the same perception with regard to this matter.

    Fact is, Indonesia save for the severity of their earthquakes and volcanic activity, possesses the stability that is necessary for economic development.

    What is de-stabilising the favourable conditions is none other than power-hungry and avarice within the that selective band of leaders or aspiring leaders. This is going to be a long essay if I have to ennumerate examples but I will assume for now that you might know to what I allude to.

    “A lot of issues stem from instability. How do you think Indonesia can make sure that wealth is distributed uniformly when there’s no stability or certainty in terms of political, economic and justice? how could we expect people to invest if there’s little assurance they would get their money back (let alone earn a profit).”
    (Andrew)

    Yes, I agree with you on that. But for a moment, let’s figure out who are the ones who are causing the instability?

    The ordinary citizen of Indonesia is too engrossed with trying to find daily sustenance and is unable in his daily stressful life to be the one who is destabilising the economic condition in Indonesia.

    Who then is it that should be providing political, economic and justice? Definitely the ordinary Indonesian citizen is not the person that would be able to do that.

    Why is it that foreigners are not attracted to invest in Indonesia? Is it because the Indonesians are rioting and there is civil strife every other week in the land? You and I know that the cause lies with those in power who should think for the good of the populace and not think for the linings of their own bank accounts. The investment laws are outdated and will continue to remain outdated. It will change only when these band of so called Indonesian leaders imbibe and practise personal integrity.

    “The first issue to be addressed isn’t the quality of life “” quality of life is the destination. Stability is just the first step, a prerequisite for everything else.”
    (Andrew)

    If the quality of life is not the first issue, if it is not the be all and the end all, then that exactly is what we are seeing across the economic plane in Indonesia.

    It is because of this purpose that nations thrive to prosper and therefore attain a better quality in life.

    Indeed stabilty is a prerequisite towards improving the quality of life. Point is, the more reason that these power seekers and those that hang on to their positions can find to rouse a rabble, to support a mob, to instigate demonstrations for their selfish ends and therefore destabilise whatever it is that threathens them, it sets the clock backwards for the nation. Do they care? Hell do they care.

    It is the first issue and the be all and the end all of those who weild power and influence in Indonesia. That is the reason that they hang on to their positions by whatever it takes to ensure that their quality of life is not assailed.

    “Income/wealth disparity in India and China is still wide, but how come they can be successful as a nation and Indonesia can’t? while there are still a lot of poor people in those countries, they managed to overcome most of the big issues, leaving them to focus on what matters most now.”
    (Andrew)

    Yes, and that disparity is applicable to any other nation too.
    The reason why the nations that you mention are comparably more advanced in their pursuits is because they revise their goals, they revise their laws when need be, they do not practise rampant nepotism and cronyism, they give unto Caesar what belongs to Caesar and to God what belongs to God, their elected leaders do not sandiwara and on and on.

    “I never said that we should aim to adopt all of Suharto’s ways of ruling the country. I only implied that there were important traits from his style that proved to be successful in keeping stability alive in Indonesia.”
    (Andrew)

    I apologise if my answer connoted that you meant that Suharto’s ways of ruling should be the aim.

    Rather, my answer was made specifically to refute (with an example) that Suharto being “at least he managed to keep the general situation in order” was not really what his leadership was all about throughout the 31 years that he led the country.

  13. avatar Dimp says:

    Hi Andrew,

    A lot of issues stem from instability. How do you think Indonesia can make sure that wealth is distributed uniformly when there’s no stability or certainty in terms of political, economic and justice? how could we expect people to invest if there’s little assurance they would get their money back (let alone earn a profit).

    I agree totally, I think what needs to be done first in Indonesia is to uphold the law equally for all Indonesians, at the moment people with money and power have no fear of the law as they can always bluff/buy their way out of this. We should start making examples by ‘actually’ putting criminals regardless who they are in prison, we should start by cleaning up the government, the corrupt officials. One thing that Suharto is good at is to put fear among the Indonesians, with fear came stability. It is not an ideal condition, ideally Indonesians should respect the law, and with that real stability can be achived. I hope whoever wins the election actually think about the future of Indonesians and not the future of his own pocket.

  14. avatar Raden says:

    Speaking about enforcement law in order in Indonesia, the world changing so fast, look at how brutal is the muslim militants & their ideology infiltrates via twisting the Islam’ interpretations, similar to mutants which blend seamlessly with the majority until we are confuse on how to dismantle it in the society.
    I think the answer is back to $oeharto’ style, we missed ‘petrus’ = penembak misterius. Last time Bashyir was fugitive in Malaysia and could not settle in Indonesia because of he was in the ‘petrus’ list. What the hell of current Indonesia democracy style is? … benang kusut !

  15. avatar WP says:

    What the hell of current Indonesia democracy style is? “¦ benang kusut!

    It is …

    A bit off topic, but I would support the separation of Bali, Maluku, and Papua. Each would be less powerful economically, but when separated they can still be rescued from the hopeless benang kusut which RI has become. See it as … damage control.

  16. avatar Ade Wanto says:

    I vote Bang Yos. Viva Bang YOS.

    Speaking about enforcement law in order in Indonesia, the world changing so fast, look at how brutal is the muslim militants & their ideology infiltrates via twisting the Islam’ interpretations, similar to mutants which blend seamlessly with the majority until we are confuse on how to dismantle it in the society.

    One races / tribes / religion should not start emposing his exclusive rules to public matters or nation wide affairs, Indonesia will never be like ARAB, I am sorry.

    Hi “miss guided person”.
    Who is chauvinist here?
    Welcome to the world.

  17. avatar Raden says:

    What is so difficult to return back to the PANCASILA and Bhinneka Tunggal Ika ? this is the last one that the contemporary Indonesian muslim extrimist will accept, they are gathering recently to question our nation basic value because of QURAN said differently about kafir, etc etc .. which are boring topic.

    According to WP :
    A bit off topic, but I would support the separation of Bali, Maluku, and Papua.

    They I said : if there is Republic of Bali then I will be the first to apply the 5 years Permanent Resident there, then I may consider to apply Citizen of Bali permanently … what a nice place to live with Hindu & Budhist people … we like you people who like living peace and accept diversity side by side, never burn churces, etc

  18. avatar Janma says:

    It’s not going to be as easy as the Suharto era, because foreign countries are more pesky these days about how democracy should be implemented.

    The soeharto era easy? Why don’t you ask Pramoedya Ananta Toer how easy it was? Or the thousands of families who lost members that just disappeared? That is the way of the past, not the future.
    Pesky fact.

  19. avatar dewaratugedeanom says:

    Raden said

    They I said : if there is Republic of Bali then I will be the first to apply the 5 years Permanent Resident there, then I may consider to apply Citizen of Bali permanently “¦ what a nice place to live with Hindu & Budhist people “¦ we like you people who like living peace and accept diversity side by side, never burn churces, etc

    Om swastyastu, Raden, welcome to Bali, land of peace and harmony. The only problem is there will be so many like you that Bali will become too small to accommodate all of them.
    Unless maybe we start annexing Lombok, Sumbawa etc. We could call it the Republic of Majapahit. Get my drift? :-;
    Merdeka!

  20. avatar Rambutan says:

    God protect Indonesia from Sutiyoso. We could just go back to Orba times instead. And all this talk of military strong men needed to lead Indonesia. Stop this bullsh*t. What makes you think a military person is more decisive than a civilian? Heck, the current President is a former General. What do you guys want? And when has Sutiyoso ever shown leadership quality? It took him ten years to buy three busway lanes. What’s his legacy as a DKI Governor? He is just a corrupt, power hungry, conservative military fart. At least SBY is honest in his fight against corruption.

  21. avatar Janma says:

    You are right rambutan! I remember once they had some huge budget to help control flooding and the dengue fever in jakarta, it was a lot of money and sutiyoso came up with some plan to print flyers on how to prevent demam berdarah (dengue) and had them dropped over certain areas of jakarta using a plane or helicopter or some such, the whole lot fell into flood waters and dissolved.

  22. avatar iamisaid says:

    “He is just a corrupt, power hungry, conservative military fart.”

    (Rambutan)

    Amin to that.

    Which is why I started off my depositions at this particular topic with a quote from Shakespeare’s Macbeth.

  23. avatar Dragonwall says:

    God protect Indonesia from Sutiyoso. We could just go back to Orba times instead. And all this talk of military strong men needed to lead Indonesia. Stop this bullsh*t. What makes you think a military person is more decisive than a civilian? Heck, the current President is a former General. What do you guys want? And when has Sutiyoso ever shown leadership quality? It took him ten years to buy three busway lanes. What’s his legacy as a DKI Governor? He is just a corrupt, power hungry, conservative military fart. At least SBY is honest in his fight against corruption.

    Without God protecting Indonesia there will be no tomorrow for her.
    Going back to which era is for one to find out.
    Everyone had found out that after that many president that had taken office, till this day, was unable to put Indonesia back on track. This are proven history. Does any of them that took office had military background or political background in achievements? None. Just talk only. Empty promise that’s it.

    Just compare the time of Soekarno, Soeharto. Though they were prejudicial at least soeharto proven he is capable. We should not mix water and salt together.
    Let’s set aside the indifference in political opinion. we talk about the situations in Indonesia.

    Everyone was much happier during the Soeharto’s era comparing to now.

    When SBY took office he had a stupid fart for his running mate because SBY doesn’t have enough money to run for presidency. But he see an urgent need to be present to apprehend the situation only to find out that the short vp was always putting himself in the limelight trying to be outspoken speaking all sorts of nonsense.
    Ha can’t even place the current Indonesian condition back to normal. so what is the use of democracy? What is the use of reformasi? No one had given SBy an opportunity so how could he perform his job?

    Like Sutiyoso, when he put forward a project for national development he still face political objections and opinion until finally it was approved not to much of the delight of Jakarta commuters. Can you buy a sony laptop with 100,000 rupiahs?
    The same thing if you want a good facilities ‘anggarannya harus cukup, bukan ulurnya dikit dikit’.
    Being in office for 5 years or 10 years is not a long time for projects to realize.

    Unless Indonesia is prepared to give time and support for these people capable of getting things done,othing will help Indonesia.

    Talking of corruption. Let say if the person is not corrupt, can one assure that the ‘pemenang tender’ will put up a price uninflated? So compare inflated price and corruption.

    Politics is not as easy as one thought. It is easier said than done. Not forgetting those GFN s**thead in the DPR MPR were always ever creating bi partisan objections. For what. So that they could get their cronies to tender for the projects and make money. So the whole thing just go round and round in circle. You are back to square one. The same old problem.

    Unless someone who is prepared to put a stern and deterrent decision. No one in office will be able to get things done.

    Look at Ali Sadikin. Soeprapto. Comparng Radius Prawiro to Ali Wardharna.

  24. avatar Rambutan says:

    Well, let Sutiyoso himself to the talking: From his interview with Gatra:

    Ada namanya elite, terdiri dari kelompok gubernur, jenderal, politisi. Mereka ini kelompok berpendidikan cukup. Tetapi yang namanya massa, mereka tidak punya pendidikan cukup, pikirannya hanya sederhana. Kadangkala mereka inilah yang melakukan pelanggaran hukum dan harus diberi pelajaran.

    Well, that says it all. Straight out of Orba times. Sutiyoso as President would be an enormous step back.

  25. avatar Janma says:

    Sutiyoso said that???!!!!!!! Crikey!

  26. avatar Pakmantri says:

    First off all it is most of the “elite” who “melakukan the biggest pelangaran hukum” because they think they are above the law.
    And “mereka tidak punya pendidikan cukup”, so what are you going to do about it Sutiyoso?

    I am sorry Sutiyoso, you loose my vote!! 🙂

  27. avatar Aldy says:

    If Sutiyoso runs for presidency he will be a much stronger candidate than SBY. Forget about DS, JA and TS. Those are people that have not prove anything in this country and they will also be another failure. – “Sutiyoso has prove him self as for 10 years chance given by create more traffics, floods, polutions all over Jakarta. He has really shown his quality, but please you show enough.”

    Experience is the main criteria. He should gather those who have strong will to provide better governance. Those who are in the cabinet should be dismiss with exception. All those that behaves like clown should be eliminated. – “Sutiyoso definitely has a lot of experience with governance failure. What will happen with Busway? Why it has become such a mess? What he did for solving the flood occurs every year? Is there any Project which actually improved Jakarta (and its people) while he was a governor?”

  28. avatar Dragonwall says:

    Sutiyoso has prove him self as for 10 years chance given by create more traffics, floods, polutions all over Jakarta

    In economical term how did you think he fared? Do you know what was the rate of increase in traffics each year? If you understand carefully governance and departmental policies you might be able to see a clearer picture.
    Amidst falling rupiahs and there were still growth (as reported which I guess was much manipulated) post riot repairs was taken care of statistically (whether technically it met the standard required was unknown), the governor’s job was to approve and carried out by Wali Kota. He had thing implemented. There is a thousand thing a Governor needs to do which I don’t think he can handle all by himself. Taking this into consideration, on the next level down report was submitted to make that looks good though much of them were manipulated or corrupted. (Like I said some department asked fr budget to have a pump replace which was done but after the inspection the new one was taken away and replace with the old ones) So do you see the problem. Rampant colluded corruption. (Whether Sutiyoso himself was involved or not I don’t know). Therefore unless someone in prepared to bring those to the firing squad the problems that was considered solve always remain unresolve.

    There were comments one Jakarta MRT and about Busway, by looking at the project it seemed a legit project that was running. Now do you know how many bus companies were running the Jakarta transportation besides the state run bus company which is the green and blue colored bus? Besides these there were also metro mini, kopaja, metro mini, bajaj, all run by private enterprise and if you are a Jakarta resident you will know that there was mass corruption in the state run bus companies amidst competition from private enterprise who were rushing every day for “setoran”. Look at things on a broader scope. I am not taking side for Sutiyoso. Being a Minister, a law maker and a Governor their duty varies whereas the latter had to attend to tiny winy bit of matters that ultimately creates a backlog.
    There were projects which I think will disbenefit the public. But on the overall as a Governor, I feel he had been faring above average. That is my personal opinion.

    Unless you think otherwise.

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