Friday Muslim Prayers

Apr 16th, 2007, in IM Posts, by David

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Janma Says:
April 19th, 2007 at 11:50 am
Well the whole is rather convoluted and contradictory… so I would rather decide based on my own discretion and choose what’s good and leave what isn’t.
Sputjam Says:
April 19th, 2007 at 3:18 pm
This is the message from the koran :-

54:17/52:22/54:32/54:40 And We made the Qur’an easy to learn. Do any of you wish to learn?

Now show me the verse that indicate that you have to learn from ulamas.
What does it take for you to understand this simple message?
Matahari Says:
April 20th, 2007 at 4:11 pm
http://www.hariankomentar.com/hl011.html
and this is what the syariah police do in Aceh.
Parvita Says:
April 21st, 2007 at 12:03 am
They are not being punished because the police are praying too. After they pray, they look for women wearing sexy blouses.

Very interesting indeed. What a job.
Yunir Says:
April 21st, 2007 at 2:58 pm
Sputjam,

The best is to read it up in Arabic itself and apply the correct semantics of the verses.

Because you refuse to do this and instead prefer to read the Qur’an in simplistic translations, all your arguments are based on those simplistic translations, not the direct Qur’an verses itself.

I can’t help but think that Indonesia Matters is nothing more then:
“Islam is idiot and so are Muslims, We don’t want Islam in Indonesia.”
Topics on non-Islamic issues are merely legitimization tools.

Discussions have really been unconstructive.
Aluang anak Bayang Says:
April 21st, 2007 at 10:10 pm
yunir wrote:

I can’t help but think that Indonesia Matters is nothing more then:
“Islam is idiot and so are Muslims, We don’t want Islam in Indonesia.”
Topics on non-Islamic issues are merely legitimization tools.

Discussions have really been unconstructive.

Sorry, I have to disagree with you. I think it has been very constructive. You see, few of us has been engaging with an Arab-wannabe poster. Whenever he was trapped and can’t respond logically, he resorted to galling retorts. There is a slim chance that he can be rehabilitated.

You, on the other hand, can turn a shameful and morally wrong Arab tradition into something you can accept. You have underestimated our intelligence. Otherwise, our founding fathers would have jumped onto the shariah bandwagon decades ago.

Man, you need to broaden your horizon, life don’t revolve around a mere book. Muslims are not idiots, the idiots are those who cried ‘wolves’ when cornered.

I have more respect for this Arab-wannabe than an evasive deceiver.
Yunir Says:
April 25th, 2007 at 6:13 pm
Aluang, you said:

I have more respect for this Arab-wannabe than an evasive deceiver.

I say, I never asked for any.

You asked about the rational for the ruling on divorces, I answered. You then raised the issue of “What if they have kids?” I can answer that too, but then you will raise the question on “What about inheritence?” I can answer that too, but then you’ll divert the whole topic to inheritence laws and ignoring the original topic.

Like I said, typical replies from Islam-bashers. The only reason why I even bother to reply and ‘entertain’ you is because fellow readers may fail to recognize your devious doings.

thx.
Aluang anak Bayang Says:
April 25th, 2007 at 6:57 pm
I remembered asking about the kids because it relates to my question. If there is sex involved (even though it is a one-night-marriage), there is a possibility of the woman getting pregnant. Saying ‘no sex involved’ doesn’t convince me as it contradicts another verse “women is like land for you to tilth whenever you want’. Nowhere in your story book of guidance prescribe condom, so the possibility of a child borne out of this liaison is very real.

I am pretty sure I didn’t ask about ‘inheritance’. So you are suggesting that there are more errors in your story book. That is interesting. Let me read about ‘inheritance’ and I will get back to you.

Call me anything you like. In fact I am here for entertainment after a long day of hard work. If you could do me a favor, point out the chapter where the errors on inheritance are, and we can start entertaining the crowd right away.

Regards.
Shamlan Says:
December 27th, 2008 at 7:44 pm
Wow… this is seriously retarded. Janma, we are men; if you can’t understand that fact, you are in denial. This means that we are created to be more visual, so if a passing beautiful woman is coming and alluring us with her beauty, we can’t do anything but feel a lust. This lust in Islam is considered unpure; which means that women should wear modest clothing (vice versa). Now, for defining modest clothing, there was a clear order prohibiting women to cover their boobs (yes, in the Q’uran), but some things remain unsure; so people resort to the hadiths and try to look for an answer, which is currently the Hijab. Now, concerning modest clothing giving women self-respect, that is bullcrap. Hijab or any modest clothing is meant to stop this feeling of great lust by men in general. Now seriously, don’t give me im the modern woman speech and all that talk, we both know this is true, so learn while you can.

Now for the ending roflz, ALLAH KNOWS BEST
P.S: I’m Kuwaiti, so i understand this stuff pretty well.
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a note for you guys: some things remain unknown, lets just keep it that way unless we have hard-core proof that it is how things should happen; like we should just say: this is a wisdom from Allah (swt) which we still do not understand. This is a solution that is amazing and we both know it

On another note, i also think modest clothing only limits the lust, since that is why we aren’t supposed to look at women that way. Not very sure about this though; well, only Allah knows best.