11 Comments on “Madurese”

1. Madesh says:
   March 15th, 2007 at 8:13 am

   You are right sir.

   I am one of loyal customers of those sate hawkers who are Madurese.

   They are nice people. As long as you pay right.

2. Ihaknt says:
   March 15th, 2007 at 8:19 am

   Mmmmm sates…YUM!

   I think just like any other communities, race, religions, or any groups for that matter, there’s always bad apples whose bad traits, behaviour, or name affect the goodness of most of the group if not as a whole. I am sure there are many more nicer Madurese than the bad.

3. Naga says:
   March 15th, 2007 at 9:12 am

   Well, it’s not hard to offend the Javanese, is it?

4. Tomaculum says:
   March 15th, 2007 at 12:35 pm

   I think de Jonge doesn’t really understand the problem.
   The Madurese living outside of Madura (Banyuwangi etc), so those unrooteds, are actually afflicted with those negative attributes.
   And according to tendencies of human, the whole madurese are “linked” with these problems.
   The main question is: why the unrooted (emigrated) Madurese are frequently afflicted with violence, while a. e. Javanese living outside the javanese areas usually associated with tough, diligent etc.
   (Maybe the short posting above doesn’t express his anthropological “report” completely, Patung?).

   Add.:
   This is, to my opinion, a frequent problem of anthropology. The researchers live in a certain area and watch the living (read: culture) there (frequently they don’t even master the language (not only “speak it good”)) and their conclusions are then used to evaluate or to analize the whole ethnic group.
   It is like the case of C. Geertz, who lived 1-2 years in a village in East Java. His book is nowadays seen as the book about the javanese culture. But we know (aren’t we?) that there are many variations of the “javanese” culture (Yogya, banyumas, Banyuwangi, Ponorogo etc). It is problematical to talk about the javanese culture.

5. Bas says:
   March 16th, 2007 at 1:09 am

   I think Dr Huub de Jonge should try to really live in Madura for a few years. And not as a single researcher if possible. Then we’ll talk again.

6. Maddie says:
   March 16th, 2007 at 1:30 pm

   Well, were in Malaysia also heard about Madurese people are revengeful one. That is why I am reading online to read more about Madurese people as my new maid is from Tanah Merah, Bangkalan province. I need to know more about Madurese people especially from her place of birth. Anyone can help? Is Tanah Merah area very poor? What should I know? Please help.

7. Andrew says:
   March 20th, 2007 at 2:59 am

   Maddie, don’t give her access to sharp objects.
   

8. Naga says:
   March 20th, 2007 at 9:52 am

   “as my new maid is from Tanah Merah, Bangkalan province”

   ask her about ‘gaya Madura’….

9. kinch says:
   June 14th, 2008 at 7:10 pm

   I’m very disappointed to see that everybody was very mature and didn’t mention the elephant in the room topic of the Madurese female of the species

10. Metty says:
    September 6th, 2009 at 12:36 pm

    Sumenep is the location of the kraton or the palace, so I guess the people in the town are the well-mannered type of Madurese. My dad’s family came from Sumenep and people can’t even tell that my dad is Madurese because he’s more like a Javanese to them.

11. Miss_diamond says:
    February 16th, 2010 at 5:02 am

    @maddie: i’m from Madura and i know Tanah Merah. Tanah Merah isn’t poor area. There are many trees and i think thats beautiful place…no pollution in Tanah Merah. Isn’t good?

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