19 Comments on “Basri”
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Tomaculum Says:
February 5th, 2007 at 12:44 amMy, God!!
Who ever the culprits and the followers were and are, I pray that God (Where is He? What is he doing?) will send them the worst pest the human being ever seen. -
Dimp Says:
February 5th, 2007 at 4:47 amI felt vengeful, especially because there were a number of people who taught me incorrect religious doctrines.
If he knows that it is incorrect, then why is he still following it?
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Cukurungan Says:
February 5th, 2007 at 6:20 amTom,
Why you did pray like that? If I was not mis-interpreted Ismail bin Jakongsu informed me that all Jesus followers love their enemies ten times than their self ? Has Jesus teaching been revised due to “Globalization”.
regards,
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1ndra Says:
February 5th, 2007 at 10:13 amI felt vengeful, especially because there were a number of people who taught me incorrect religious doctrines.
If he knows that it is incorrect, then why is he still following it?
Anybody had their family be killed in tortured ways will be vengeful as Basri.
Angry man won’t follow the his logic and an easy false doctrined target, to take revenge. -
February 5th, 2007 at 10:59 amHi 1ndra,
Anybody had their family be killed in tortured ways will be vengeful as Basri.
Angry man won’t follow the his logic and an easy false doctrined target, to take revenge.Yes, one can be vengeful because of this situation, but he is supposed to be vengeful against the killers, not to innocent people. He is probably targeted by people who incite hatred against non-Moslems, these people are the ones who need to be targeted by the police. They need to be eliminated, the same as their counterpart who incite hatred against Moslems as well.
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February 5th, 2007 at 12:37 pmCukurungan,
I’m not a follower of Jesus or “his Dad” neither of Allah. And I’m not Ismail, OK? Do you want to insult me?
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1ndra Says:
February 5th, 2007 at 2:24 pmYes, one can be vengeful because of this situation, but he is supposed to be vengeful against the killers, not to innocent people.
True. That’s why the conflict didn’t end.
See, if only militant vs militant, then there’s no militant anymore, and civilian could live in peace. Do you want to insult me?
I want to see one.
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February 5th, 2007 at 3:43 pmTrue. That’s why the conflict didnt end.
The conflict will never end, not until someone actually will stand up and make a difference. The problem is that there is someone who is making a profit out of this instability in Poso. Once this person(s) is eliminated then there would not be violence in Poso. As always the issues are about money and power.
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February 5th, 2007 at 8:27 pmDimp,
Conflict is a function of triangular conflict. If the triangle doest exist the conflict just wait not if but when to occur. In the Poso case, the Moslem and Christian community is the fuel or flammable whereas oxygen is the Moslem and Christian anger who lossed their love one during the conflict. So whatever the government or Densus 88 do it will only make a temporary halt while a provocator is waiting a good time to spark ignitor in order to begin their orchestra of conflict.
Btw, Poso and Ambon conflict was God’s punishment to them because even Moslem is majority in this country but on the eye of predator the Moslem KTP existence just like food on the table.
Myths Buster.
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February 6th, 2007 at 4:44 amHi Cukurungan,
Nope, this is not God’s punishment. I don’t quite understand why Indonesians always think that God is full of anger and need to punish the people.
As you said there are provocators in this case, so again if these provocators can be eliminated then the conflict can be stopped.
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February 6th, 2007 at 9:10 amDimp,
In my belief that’s God punishment because the Indo Moslems always betray God’s order, what they learned from Quran and Hadist only be implemented ceremonially in the daily life while the essentials of islamic teaching such as fairness and justice were left on the paper. Otherwise, Indo will not be ranked among the highest corrupt country.
Elimination of provocators is a monumental job for the government because their existence is like a fart, it can be smell but very hard to locate it.
Myth Buster.
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February 6th, 2007 at 10:19 amHi Cukurungan,
Unfortunately that is how Indonesians like to perceive things, they prefer “kulit” than “isi”.
But I still prefer to thing that the disasters happening in Indonesia were just events that should make people unite as one, to remind them that no matter how rich you are, how smart you are, we are still one vulnerable human being. Through these disasters we can see that regardless of race, religion, people are willing to help one another.
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Ihaknt Says:
February 6th, 2007 at 10:27 amBut Dimp, the reality is people blame each other. Even when one farts.
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February 6th, 2007 at 12:10 pmHi Ihaknt,
But Dimp, the reality is poeple blame each other. Even when one farts”¦
Indeed they do, but these are uneducated people or whose morality is in question. Good people are the one who help others regardless of faith, religion or race, they are the one who put their hands up, when they farted.
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February 6th, 2007 at 12:38 pmDimp, you’re delusional. A good person won’t necessarily put their hand up when they fart. It’s too embarassing. But that doesn’t make them a bad person.
Anyway, Indos are opportunists you know. If there’s a disaster that’s the opportunity to become or to look righteous, as you always say, skin is more important than inside. And that’s when the blaming game begins.
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February 6th, 2007 at 5:10 pmIHAKNT,
Anyway, Indos are opportunists you know. If there’s a disaster that’s the opportunity to become or to look righteous, as you always say, kulit is more important than isi. And that’s when the blaming game begins.
Not actually talking about Indos here.
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February 7th, 2007 at 6:45 amReally? I thought it was Indonesia matters.
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February 7th, 2007 at 8:57 amWhat I meant was when disasters struck in Indo, there are people (not necessarily Indos) who are willing to help regardless of race, religion, faith etc.
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February 7th, 2007 at 12:04 pmMy bad Dimp, you have to bear with me a bit. Too much alcohol plus that I am sick, so I am a bit slow.
But I think I need to revise my earlier comment. I just remember that even in New Orleans cyclone disaster, people were still taking advantage from the disaster. Looting the shops, rapes, stealing, kidnapping, etc. So I think it’s more of a human nature to be opportunist. I guess desperate situation calls for desperate measures sometimes.
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