Ahmadiyah & Human Rights

Jan 30th, 2007, in IM Posts, by David

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19 Comments on “Ahmadiyah & Human Rights”

Bas Says:
January 30th, 2007 at 1:49 am
He worried that the statement by Komnas HAM that attacks on Ahmadiyah were human rights crimes would only further inflame the passions of Muslims, and that therefore Komnas HAM was in fact provoking violence against Ahmadiyah. He advised Komnas HAM to revise their findings so as not to cause ill-feeling in society.

Who do you call that?
Dimp Says:
January 30th, 2007 at 4:22 am
I am worried that his comment against Komnas HAM not to comment will only inflame the passion Komnas HAM, and therefore Ma’ruf Amin was in fact provoking comments by Komnas HAM.
Chris Says:
January 30th, 2007 at 10:27 am
A while back it was reported in “Tempo” magazine that the Lombok members of Ahdmadiyyah were applying for refugee status in Canada and Australia. Anybody know what happened with that?
Achmad Sudarsono Says:
January 30th, 2007 at 7:53 pm
Dear Friend,

Maybe Ahmadiyah was asking for it?

They ever practice the deviant Islam, not the true Islam. Can the authorities be responsible if the anger of the people is inflamed?

Friend,

Ahmadiyah is not in the Pancasila. Christian, Buddhist, Hindu, is. Maybe even animist, I think in some places. But not the Ahmadiyah, my friend.

The worst crime is they take my name: Achmad. Although it is spelled different in English, it is transliterated from the holy Arabic language, my dearest Friend one.

Oke ?
sgn Says:
January 31st, 2007 at 12:11 am
Let me quote the “Pancasila”

(1) Ketuhanan yang Maha Esa
(2) Kemanusiaan yang Adil dan Beradab
(3) Persatuan Indonesia
(4) Kerakyatan yang Dipimpin oleh Hikmat Kebijaksanaan dalam Permusyawaratan/Perwakilan
(5) Keadilan Sosial bagi Seluruh Rakyat Indonesia

Mas Sudarsono wrote:

Ahmadiyah is not in the Pancasila.

Which principle of Pancasila does Ahmadiyah not fit?

Please advice.

sgn
Tomaculum Says:
January 31st, 2007 at 1:10 am
A. Sudarsono, you again.
Gradually your sketchy provocation is being more and more boring. Try something new, won’t you?

Sgn, the Panca Sila in A. Sudarsono’s mind is just 5 x in the day sitting cross legged (javanese: sila) and strikeout the next “intellectual” comment.

My, my, A. Sudarsono, you naughty kid.
Achmad Sudarsono Says:
January 31st, 2007 at 4:08 pm
Hey, Mr. Tomalcum,

I don’t try to provoke anyone, just to share and Make A Friend.

If they worship me: Achmadiyah, I accept.
Tomaculum Says:
January 31st, 2007 at 7:26 pm
“Ahmadiyah is not in the Pancasila.”
“If they worship me: Achmadiyah, I accept.”
No comment!
sgn Says:
January 31st, 2007 at 11:53 pm
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Rockstar Says:
February 1st, 2007 at 3:19 am
Caption:

“Whoaaa, an earthquake attack, brothers, let’s hang on to this very sturdy looking billboard.”
Dimp Says:
February 3rd, 2007 at 6:16 am
Just had a very interesting conversation with my friend, he is a syiah Moslem. He commented that Ahmadiyah is just evil, I was quite surprised to learn this as I always thought that he is a moderate Moslem. So if a moderate Moslem can consider Ahmadiyah as evil, then what about the extremist Moslems?
sgn Says:
February 5th, 2007 at 12:32 pm
… and did you notice the Saudi Arabian Sunni comments on Iranian Syiah?

sgn
Dimp Says:
February 5th, 2007 at 1:57 pm
I think these people need to be brought together, put into one room and discuss their issues with one another. Until a resolution is reached then they are not allowed to leave the room.
sgn Says:
February 5th, 2007 at 3:14 pm
… and wondering how they view on my nice friend M. Khafi (as he mentioned that he is belongs to a minority Muslim).

sgn
Ihaknt Says:
February 5th, 2007 at 3:16 pm
Dimp, and they are not allowed to go to the toilet until the issues are resolved.
Dimp Says:
February 5th, 2007 at 3:41 pm
Dimp, and they are not allowed to go to the toilet until the issues are resolved.

Or they have to go together, if not it would be a very messy room indeed.

Maybe they need to be put in a room where on each hour one more person is added, and then another, and then another, I think they will then gang up against this new person, and so on, so at least they will find one common ground, hating the newbie.
Progressive Says:
February 10th, 2007 at 11:22 am
Ahmadiyah claimed Mirza Ghulam Ahmad as the last prophet. While in Islam, Muhammad is the last prophet.

Christianity have Isa Almasih as their last prophet and saviour. So Christianity can’t accept Muhammad. But never hates Islam.

The position is the same. Hope that we can have some mutual spiritual dialogues then.
sgn Says:
February 11th, 2007 at 5:24 am
Here are two more Prophets in this millenium …

From http://www.streamingfaith.com/directory/index.aspx

Prophet T.B. Joshua
Prophet Kevin Leal

sgn.
Craig Says:
May 16th, 2007 at 12:14 am
In every instance of an Indonesian Volcano, violence and suicides skyrocketed. The same happans in every other country that has pyroclastic flows from volcanoes.