Laskar Jihad

Jan 31st, 2007, in IM Posts, by David

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1ndra Says:
February 2nd, 2007 at 6:51 pm
I am just going to correct you here, simple, because they are cowards, and they don’t want others to recognise them.

I think rockstar is right, they cover their face because they farted at the same time.

So why the anti terrorist police, swat or something like that, used cover too, mouth cover (I don’t think they have eaten Indonesian jengkol or forget to brush their teeth), even they are using helmet, bulletproof vest.
Cowards?
Tomaculum Says:
February 2nd, 2007 at 10:52 pm
1ndra, these anti terror police and these special forces cover their face to protect their familiy and relatives from the vengeance of such terror groups or criminals. I’m sure you are clever enough to know this reason, aren’t you?
Julita Says:
February 3rd, 2007 at 2:10 am
Oh my, all discussing about why they cover their face, mouth etc. I recently heard there is a bird flu epidemic in Asia.
Tomaculum Says:
February 3rd, 2007 at 2:15 am
1ndra, to your comment of the February, 1st, 3:38 pm:

Good people have many meanings, but here I mean, some of them aren’t bad boys/criminals, not someone who like disturbing other neighbours.

Are you sure? Which neighbours? What about the neighbours with yellow skin and slit eye? Or those neighbours which have other faiths? Or do you mean neighbours with same skin and eye form and which follows the same religious stream? Sunnit or shiit?
Do you believe that these people won’t disturb these neighbours, even if they are followers of the Ahmadiyah?
I am a little, little bit sceptical.

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Julita, bird flu is just one of the epidemies in Asia (read: Indonesia).
Dimp Says:
February 3rd, 2007 at 4:14 am
Hi Tomaculum,

1ndra, these anti terror police and these special forces cover their face to protect their familiy and relatives from the vengeance of such terror groups or criminals. I’m sure you are clever enough to know this reason, aren’t you?

It is bad enough when people start ignoring the law, but when they actually regard themselves as higher than the law then there is no place for them in this community. Unfortunately the law in Indo can still be bought. Tommy Suharto has proven this.
1ndra Says:
February 3rd, 2007 at 11:30 am
1ndra, these anti terror police and these special forces cover their face to protect their familiy and relatives from the vengeance of such terror groups or criminals. I’m sure you are clever enough to know this reason, aren’t you?

And how about the terrorist, are they using the mask to cover their family too?
If anyone recognized their faces, their family is in danger too.

But why police aren’t using masks as they are prone to revenge, I still remember the police who has been fined me.

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Are you sure? Which neighbours? What about the neighbours with yellow skin and slit eye? Or those neighbours which have other faiths? Or do you mean neighbours with same skin and eye form and which follows the same religious stream? Sunnit or shiit?

I’m not pointing bad boys Tom, people who gamble, thieves, you know what I mean, those are the example bad people.

Do you believe that these people won’t disturb these neighbours, even if they are followers of the Ahmadiyah? I am a little, little bit sceptical.

Me too, that was happened in Poso, when both sides aren’t respecting each others.
At least it won’t happened in my community.

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Oh my, all discussing about why they cover their face, mouth etc. I recently heard there is a bird flu epidemic in Asia.

Better not discussing the masks/cover as both sides are using it.
Tomaculum Says:
February 3rd, 2007 at 12:53 pm
1ndra,
“And how about the terrorist, are they using the mask to cover their family too?
If anyone recognized their faces, their family is in danger too.
But why police aren’t using masks as they are prone to revenge, I still remember the police who has been fined me. ”
the special forces and the special police groups are founded to fight criminals and such terror groups and frequently they have to do under cover jobs, so it is contra productive if they are recognised, aren’t they? That is a further reason. I thought you know it already, so I didn’t need to write it. Your argument above is just like “debat kusir”, isn’t it?

“I’m not pointing bad boys Tom, people who gamble, thieves, you know what I mean, those are the example bad people.”
No, 1ndra, I honestly didn’t know what you meant. My view was directed to the picture above and still I don’t believe, that most of them are good people, like you meant. If they are good, I would anticipate, that they trying to help the poso people to rebuild the peace up there. And not to aggravate the situation.

“Me too, that was happened in Poso, when both sides aren’t respecting each others.
At least it won’t happened in my community. ”
Let’s hope, 1ndra, let’s hope!

Dimp,
you’re right. The problem is unfortunately, that also the responsible ones (read: police, armee, government etc) do their movements on the verge and frequently enough beyond the valid law.
1ndra Says:
February 3rd, 2007 at 5:43 pm
the special forces and the special police groups are founded to fight criminals and such terror groups and frequently they have to do under cover jobs, so it is contra productive if they are recognised, aren’t they? That is a further reason. I thought you know it already, so I didn’t need to write it. Your argument above is just like “debat kusir”, isn’t it?

The same function, not being recognized.
Just another ‘debat kusir’ Tom.

No, 1ndra, I honestly didn’t know what you meant. My view was directed to the picture above and still I don’t believe, that most of them are good people, like you meant. If they are good, I would anticipate, that they trying to help the poso people to rebuild the peace up there. And not to aggravate the situation.

What I mean good here is different than bad guys Tom, I know, it different. I just hope they change their name to Laskar Cinta instead. That’s what Poso needs.
Julita Says:
February 3rd, 2007 at 10:54 pm
Julita, bird flu is just one of the epidemies in Asia (read: Indonesia).

I did check and I loset track, too many.
Fanglong Says:
February 5th, 2007 at 10:04 pm
While words are flying, men are dying.
Erwin Says:
February 13th, 2007 at 2:33 pm
Onward Jihadist!
72 virgins are waiting for you.
Hassan Says:
February 13th, 2007 at 4:02 pm
“72 virgins are waiting for you”

Yet another ignorant comment. As a Muslim, I have never ever found anything that sounded like that in the Quran or Hadith. The question is, where did that teaching (about the 72 virgins) came from? Propaganda? By whom?

It’s interesting to note that there are more non-Muslims who were familiar with that 72 virgins ‘teaching’ than Muslims themselves.
Mermerize Says:
March 10th, 2007 at 10:20 am
I want to kill Jews and Christians with my own hands on the battlefield.
(Saya sendiri ingin dengan tangan saya membunuh Yahudi dan Nasrani dalam medan perang.)
Fanglong Says:
March 11th, 2007 at 6:16 pm
Hi Mermerize, have some aspirine or something, then you’ll feel cooler. Or come here in Bali where people consider others with a real good heart. Puputan is glorious, nyupat can be courageous, and senyum has always the last word…

As-salaam ‘alayka khuyya !
Tomaculum Says:
March 11th, 2007 at 11:32 pm
Fanglong, Mermerize should better take his dose of heroin.
Mokhtar Says:
September 5th, 2007 at 10:22 am
A question bother me: don’t these people and all of them who demonstrated for/against various things (like against the Playboy magazine etc) have to work to earn money like all of us?
Or is working to earn money something trivial profane for them? Or are they have enough money? If yes, then from where?

My response to such question:
We, the Muslims,wherever or whoever we are are like a brick to a wall. If things going against our way of life (Islam), then it’s the responsibilities of every soul who profess that There Is No God but Allah and Mohammad is The Messenger of Allah to
react against them (the unlawful) accordingly. About the money or work, they didn’t die from hunger, did they? Because Life is a gift from the Almighty, guaranteed.

Cowards don’t wanna die, my friend, even looking for one.

My response to such remark:
the Laskar Jihad is one of the responses by the Muslims not only in Indonesia but worldwide. We the Muslims took such atrocities against Muslims as calls for jihad or holy war where gates of heaven are opened wide welcoming us. And with that remarks, it is irony to call these jihadists cowards.

the laskar jihad is not the good one. Everyone knows the samurai sword is an old weapon!

My response to such remark:
The Iraqis and the Afghans are fighting against the heavily armed Nato and the West with ‘samurai’ swords and they are winning the wars. How about that?
Tomaculum Says:
September 5th, 2007 at 11:40 am
Mokhtar,

We, the Muslims,wherever or whoever we are are like a brick to a wall.

What do you mean? A brick in the wall is a static figure, is it what you mean? So just being a brick further more or can it also be a part of the wall and secures the content of the room?

We, the Muslims,wherever or whoever we are are like a brick to a wall. If things going against our way of life (Islam), then it’s the responsibilities of every soul who profess that There Is No God but Allah and Mohammad is The Messenger of Allah to react against them (the unlawful) accordingly.

Could I interprete your statement/answer like this: kill all of them who aren’t moslem?
Or how should you react?

About the money or work, they didn’t die from hunger, did they? Because Life is a gift from the Almighty, guaranteed.

But, before you do Jihad and die in “exploding” way you have to eat and drink something and to buy things to cover your aurats, don’t you? Don’t you need money for this all?
Life is a gift from the Almighty, so we have to thank Him and attend this gift (including the life of others, which are surely also a gift from Him, aren’t they?).
If someone doesn’t attend His gift, isn’t it an insult to Him?
Sylvester Says:
September 5th, 2007 at 3:27 pm
Waaao, I see several postings from moron radical islam. Wonder how to eliminate this virus.
Eagle Says:
January 24th, 2008 at 9:41 pm
This is Message for people who are against jihad.

Make your death run away from you if you are true.
Revi Novan Says:
July 20th, 2008 at 6:59 am
(my name have shown that prove I have a responsibility for my words)
When we (islam) try to do our job that commanded by Allah, we have a lot of comment that makes what we do become bad.
How about many militaries (USA) in palestine and in the other moslems country? What are they doing there? Cooking?
They’re helping the Jewish to get ‘their land’. What it is used for? Cooking?
It’s enough for me to say that they are trying to destroy Islam. They thing that Islam is weak like your old grandfather. What makes that assumption? (may you consider before when you should give an assumption?) the propaganda.
The different opinion of many moslems people in the world about what ‘they’ do. We are the same, we are one. Like a big tree and a small plant. Which one is the strongest? Can we show that we are strong? Yes, we can. Yes we are. And the ‘batil’s will lose their weapon.
gurkha Says:
September 9th, 2008 at 11:50 am
Like all religious fundamentalsits, be they muslim, christian or hindu – They are fundamentalists because they think their religion is under threat. No religion = no fundamentalism but religion is not for sensible people. how can you reason a person out of a belief that they have not been reasoned into?

GET RID OF RELIGION! It is a creation of man to control his fellow man, through poverty, ignorance and superstition.