49 Comments on “Laskar Jihad”

1. Grace and Mercy Says:
   January 31st, 2007 at 4:35 pm

   Deja Vu! (sigh)

2. Dimp Says:
   January 31st, 2007 at 5:16 pm

   They should have fly with Adam Air.

3. Ihaknt Says:
   January 31st, 2007 at 8:38 pm

   Halah…munafik thugs for hire!! If they were ‘brave’ why do they always cover their faces? I thought it was only for women to cover their faces. Muna! I hope they all die in that self-declared war. Useless people.

4. Tomaculum Says:
   January 31st, 2007 at 9:17 pm

   A question bother me: don’t these people and all of them who demonstrated for/against various things (like against the Playboy magazine etc) have to work to earn money like all of us?
   Or is working to earn money something trivial profane for them? Or are they have enough money? If yes, then from where?

5. Ihaknt Says:
   January 31st, 2007 at 9:25 pm

   Tom, they are thugs for hire. Come on, you know this mentality. If money talks loud enough then they action on something, anything. Sometimes the payment is as simple as nasi bungkus. What else would they cover their faces for? It’s the leader/payer of the pack who should be asked where they get their money from. I guess these people think by yelling God’s name it guarantees them the path to heaven without analysing what other behaviour is appropriate.

6. 1ndra Says:
   January 31st, 2007 at 10:09 pm

   How do you know they’re thugs, do you have proof?
   I’ve read most of them are good people that are being angry because their family have been treated as animals and because their brotherhoodness.

   And about cover, I think maybe its for ‘mentality care’.
   I mean, if they’re uncovered and their friends died, it will make them sad and breakdown because they already remember their faces.
   But with a cover, they dont care about faces, only care the same goals.
   Just my thought, correct me if I’m wrong.

   But I’m not longing for anymore war, hope they know what they’re doing and won’t do anything harmful.

7. Hassan Says:
   January 31st, 2007 at 10:31 pm

   Let’s be fair. Most of them had lost their family member(s) on the last big strife in Poso, they’re not looking forward for a repeat so they’re just taking some necessary protective precautions. They can’t rely on the police to keep their families in Poso safe, we all knew too well how our police in Poso are: useless.

   Tomaculum:

   “don’t these people and all of them who demonstrated for/against various things (like against the Playboy magazine etc) have to work to earn money like all of us?”

   They had attained ‘financial freedom’, as Robert Kiyosaki would say. Fighting evil (or preserving evil, depending on your point of view) is a lucrative business on some parts of the world.

   On a more serious note, is it not true that God will provide for each and every one of His creations? ‘How’ is a different matter altogether.

   Ihaknt:

   “Sometimes the payment is as simple as nasi bungkus.”

   I don’t think they would risk their lives over some nasi bungkus. Would you?

8. Robert Says:
   January 31st, 2007 at 11:17 pm

   Hassan,

   Let’s be fair. Most of them had lost their family member(s) on the last big strife in Poso, they’re not looking forward for a repeat so they’re just taking some necessary protective precautions.

   How do you know these guys lost family members? What kind of ‘necessary protective precautions’ are you talking about? It seems to me you know these guys very well, because you are so convinced of their good intentions.

   BTW, If their intentions are so noble, why do they have to pose as fishermen and go to Makassar in small boats? Why not take the ferry instead? And what about the masks, are they afraid they get a sunburn?
   For people who have allegedly honourable intentions, they have all appearances against them.

   I don’t think they would risk their lives over some nasi bungkus. Would you?

   I don’t think so either. Nasi bungkus won’t do the trick, probably money will.

9. Andrew Says:
   February 1st, 2007 at 12:05 am

   Talking about lost lives due to violence, I think a lot of people from both sides in Poso have their share of the misery.

   I still believe what’s critical is the role of government and law enforcement there. Now, whether or not they are effective and unbiased in doing their job warrants another discussion.

   In any case, taking matters in to their own hands won’t fix the situation - it’s like going back to medieval time. Whoever they are, be they Muslims or Christians or anyone else, and whatever the reasons are, killing others and stirring up violence are against the law.

   I don’t claim to have the magic formula to resolve this situation, but instead of bickering over who’s wrong and who’s right, shouldn’t we focus on discussing the solution? I know it won’t be easy - for if it were, the government would have solved this long ago.

10. Bas Says:
    February 1st, 2007 at 12:29 am

    Nasi bungkus is much than enough in a country where you can hire a killer for Rp. 50.000 and sometime less. Read “abal-abal”, prisons are full of guys who have killed for a pack of cigarettes.

11. Tomaculum Says:
    February 1st, 2007 at 1:04 am

    Hassan,

    Let’s be fair. Most of them had lost their family member(s) on the last big strife in Poso.

    Hmm, I thought most of the Laskar Jihad members, which are now going to Sulawesi (do they have already reached Poso now?), are from Java. Ah, ya, maybe they have relatives in Poso, hmm? Or maybe not? Or is this because Muslims in the whole world are brothers, so they view the Poso Moslems as relatives?

    They had attained ‘financial freedom’, as Robert Kiyosaki would say. Fighting evil (or preserving evil, depending on your point of view) is a lucrative business on some parts of the world.

    You’re right, Hassan, but which evil? The evil (read: stupidity and fanaticism) in their heads? Vengeance? I’m sure that islam don’t teach the Muslims to act vengeance.

    I don’t think they would risk their lives over some nasi bungkus. Would you?

    If you ask me, I would answer: no! Not for a nasi bungkus, but also not for billions of dollars.

    1ndra,

    And about cover, I think maybe its for ‘mentality care’.
    I mean, if they’re uncovered and their friends died, it will make them sad and breakdown because they already remember their faces. But with a cover, they dont care about faces, only care the same goals.

    Are you serious with this comment?

    I’ve read most of them are good people that are being angry because their family have been treated as animals and because their brotherhoodness.

    Good people? What is your definition for good people? To use your vocabulary: I have read, that good people are those who love their neighbour independently their religion/faith and skin colour (read: race), and those which are helpful, peaceful, relisgious without being fanatic, those who works honestly to earn money. More?
    But maybe this definition I’ve read is out of date?

    It is sad and disgusting what currently happens in and with Indonesia.

12. Matahari Says:
    February 1st, 2007 at 1:24 am

    Guys, they are probably thugs for hire, but they also are victims of the poverty, they probably don’t understand what jihad means, all they know is to do the job and get paid.

    Sadly, they been using as the political vehicle by certain people.
    From England with love, Matahari

13. Rockstar Says:
    February 1st, 2007 at 3:13 am

    Now the question is, why did they cover their mouth?

    I suspect they went to Poso in search for a peppermint.

    “”””””
    Caption: “Who’s just fart? Raise your hand!”

14. Dimp Says:
    February 1st, 2007 at 4:45 am

    Hi 1ndra,

    I’ve read most of them are good people that are being angry because their family have been treated as animals and because their brotherhoodness.

    Can you please elaborate more, what you meant by brotherhood here, I have seen people killing each other regardless of their religion, in Iraq the Sunni and Shiah are killing each other, in Palestine the Hamas and Fatah are killing each other, why the Laskar Jihad are not sent there?

    And about cover, I think maybe its for ‘mentality care’.
    I mean, if they’re uncovered and their friends died, it will make them sad and breakdown because they already remember their faces.
    But with a cover, they dont care about faces, only care the same goals.
    Just my thought, correct me if I’m wrong.

    I am just going to correct you here, simple, because they are cowards, and they don’t want others to recognise them.

    All in all I am against any violence, if you say that the Moslems can defend by killing non-Moslems, then the non-Moslems can say that they need to defend themselves by killing the Moslems, God help us.

15. Rockstar Says:
    February 1st, 2007 at 6:08 am

    I understand that those people who are holding their stomach has a bit of a stomachache I think, but the guy on the right, why is he touching his armpit?

16. Grace and Mercy Says:
    February 1st, 2007 at 10:45 am

    Hassan

    Let’s be fair. Most of them had lost their family member(s) on the last big strife in Poso, they’re not looking forward for a repeat so they’re just taking some necessary protective precautions.

    But they’re NOT from Poso. They are heading there from Surabaya.

17. Grace and Mercy Says:
    February 1st, 2007 at 10:47 am

    Tom

    Ah, ya, maybe they have relatives in Poso, hmm? Or maybe not? Or is this because Muslims in the whole world are brothers, so they view the Poso Moslems as relatives?

    Good one!

18. Miss Indo 07 Says:
    February 1st, 2007 at 1:33 pm

    Hassan

    Let’s be fair. Most of them had lost their family member(s) on the last big strife in Poso, they’re not looking forward for a repeat so they’re just taking some necessary protective precautions.

    Indra

    How do you know they’re thugs, do you have proof?
    I’ve read most of them are good people that are being angry because their family have been treated as animals and because their brotherhoodness.

    And about cover, I think maybe its for ‘mentality care’.
    I mean, if they’re uncovered and their friends died, it will make them sad and breakdown because they already remember their faces.
    But with a cover, they dont care about faces, only care the same goals.

    If these comments can come from people whom I assumed “makan sekolahan”, then no wonder those people can be beyond stupid.
    Maybe like Tomaculum said, don’t they have to earn some money? I guess they’re jobless (kurang kerjaan).
    Frankly speaking, this same old brand new problem has been in Indo since forever, but the funny thing is, it seems like the people (read:government) has no intention to stop it.

    Special note for Hassan (I dont hate you,, it’s just like your comments always make me feel bad), sorry for repeating this again and again, I also have some relatives died because of violence, because of racism and it doesnt make me go to the street with my face covered and slaughter every pribumi that I see, right?

19. 1ndra Says:
    February 1st, 2007 at 3:38 pm

    Good people? What is your definition for good people? To use your vocabulary: I have read, that good people are those who love their neighbour independently their religion/faith and skin colour (read: race), and those which are helpful, peaceful, relisgious without being fanatic, those who works honestly to earn money. More?
    But maybe this definition I’ve read is out of date?

    Good people have many meanings, but here I mean, some of them arent bad boys/criminals, not someone who like disturbing other neighbours. But your definition is never out of date, friend. It’s my definition too.

    I am just going to correct you here, simple, because they are cowards, and they don’t want others to recognise them.

    Cowards don’t wanna die, my friend, even looking for one.

20. Grace and Mercy Says:
    February 1st, 2007 at 3:56 pm

    Robert asks

    And what about the masks, are they afraid they get a sunburn?

    Rockstar asks

    Now the question is, why did they cover their mouth?

    Maybe because they are embarassed/ ashamed that no lady wanted to be their 2nd (or 3rd or 4th) wives. Hence the anger and outrage.

21. Dimp Says:
    February 1st, 2007 at 4:59 pm

    Hi 1ndra,

    Cowards don’t wanna die, my friend, even looking for one.

    Well, I don’t think those people are really willing to die, they are there to show that they are willing to kill, not willing to die, if you look at the videos, suicide bomber never hide their face, only the leaders who are too scared to do it themselves.

22. Achmad Sudarsono Says:
    February 1st, 2007 at 7:13 pm

    Friend: the laskar jihad is not the good one. Everyone knows the samurai sword is an old weapon!

23. Hassan Says:
    February 1st, 2007 at 8:05 pm

    Robert:

    “How do you know these guys lost family members? What kind of ‘necessary protective precautions’ are you talking about? It seems to me you know these guys very well, because you are so convinced of their good intentions.”

    I had the same questions. How do we know that those people were just some “thugs for hire?” or only a bunch of foolhardy “religious fanatics”? A view which some of us truly believed in.

    It seems you missed out on the last big strife there, it wasn’t pretty. No Robert, what happened wasn’t the victimized Christians stories you read on western press. Hordes of Muslims were murdered and driven from their homes, much like the genocide in the Balkans. By saying that I didn’t meant to say the violence was a one way affair, both parties were guilty of brutal acts of violence and the police were helpless. In fact, the police took sides depending on their own respective religions. What else can you do to protect your relatives?

    “BTW, If their intentions are so noble, why do they have to pose as fishermen and go to Makassar in small boats? Why not take the ferry instead? And what about the masks, are they afraid they get a sunburn?”

    Of course they feared that the police will stop them from going to Poso. On the other hand, they can’t rely on the police to keep their relatives in Poso save. But I’m speaking generally here, I don’t know and won’t pretend to know about their individual motives.

    Tomaculum:

    “Ah, ya, maybe they have relatives in Poso, hmm? Or maybe not? Or is this because Muslims in the whole world are brothers, so they view the Poso Moslems as relatives?”

    That is one aspect, the other was the answer to this question: If you lived in Germany, does that means it will be impossible for you to have relatives living in Sulawesi, for example?

    “If you ask me, I would answer: no! Not for a nasi bungkus, but also not for billions of dollars.”

    How about for the safety of your loved ones? Would you? Oh and don’t forget you can’t rely on the authorities to ensure their safety in this case.

    Dimp:

    “Can you please elaborate more, what you meant by brotherhood here, I have seen people killing each other regardless of their religion, in Iraq the Sunni and Shiah are killing each other, in Palestine the Hamas and Fatah are killing each other, why the Laskar Jihad are not sent there?”

    It’s a complex issue and quite difficult to understand, unless you’re familiar with the geopolitical situation in the Middle East.

    Try this link: http://www.middle-east-online.com/english/?id=19195.

    MISS INDO 07:

    “Special note for Hassan (I dont hate you,, it’s just like your comments always make me feel bad)”

    I’m sorry if my comments sounded awful for you, I surely didn’t meant it that way. One thing for sure, I didn’t deliberately post comments that I knew that it will hurt others. I can only think that the reason was because we are what people will say “on the different sides of the fence”, we had different perspective on some matters.

    Perhaps all of us should try to look beyond ‘the fence’.

    “sorry for repeating this again and again, I also have some relatives died because of violence, because of racism and it doesnt make me go to the street with my face covered and slaughter every pribumi that I see, right?”

    I’m deeply sorry about the loss of your loved ones, but we can’t accuse those Laskar Jihad people of wanting to slaughter every Christians that they see either, can we?

24. 1ndra Says:
    February 1st, 2007 at 9:08 pm

    Well, I don’t think those people are really willing to die, they are there to show that they are willing to kill, not willing to die, if you look at the videos, suicide bomber never hide their face, only the leaders who are too scared to do it themselves.

    Wew, if they wear masks, they’ll ‘bombed with bogem mentah’ by public before they could trigger their bombs.

    Oh if you don’t wear masks, don’t forget to hide your bombs, no one know if your bombs would get malfunction.
    “Aaaahhh, death to America….oh sh*t”.

25. Tomaculum Says:
    February 1st, 2007 at 11:07 pm

    Hassan,

    That is one aspect, the other was the answer to this question: If you lived in Germany, does that means it will be impossible for you to have relatives living in Sulawesi, for example?

    And you sure, that many of these people have relatives in Poso? Seriously? Come on, Hassan! We are frequently in disagreement with another, but I have always respect your argumentations. But this argumentation is a little bit naive, isn’t it?

    How about for the safety of your loved ones? Would you? Oh and don’t forget you can’t rely on the authorities to ensure their safety in this case.

    I wouldn’t take any payment to protect the safety of my loved ones, Hassan. I would give my live gratis for this, but I wouldn’t risk my life for such stupid things. I hope you see the difference in the two statements.
    In Germany I can rely on the authorities for your safety even if you are not looking like a german, but in Indonesia the authority is a part of this chaos, isn’t it? And you are sure that the Laskar Jihad people can ensure the safety of their relatives (or what ever you call it) in Poso? With such actions? By doing revenge?

    Once again, it is sad and disgusting what happens in and with Indonesia.

26. Robert Says:
    February 1st, 2007 at 11:08 pm

    Hassan,

    It seems you missed out on the last big strife there, it wasn’t pretty. No Robert, what happened wasn’t the victimized Christians stories you read on western press. Hordes of Muslims were murdered and driven from their homes, much like the genocide in the Balkans. By saying that I didn’t meant to say the violence was a one way affair, both parties were guilty of brutal acts of violence and the police were helpless. In fact, the police took sides depending on their own respective religions. What else can you do to protect your relatives?

    Of course I will believe that there was a lot brutal violence from both sides. And maybe these guys do have relatives on Sulawesi, and go there for protection.
    There are hundreds of people who visit their relatives on Sulawesi and take the ferry. What would distinguish these guys from other (Muslim) ferrypassengers? Is it only their clothing? This raises a question however, how is the police going to stop these guys then?I can’t believe the police will arrest them on the charge of familyvisit.
    They may have good intentions, but they have all appearances against them.

    As long as the police is choosing sides, there will always be the problem that people take the right in their own hands, and the danger of civil unrest will be present.

27. Tomaculum Says:
    February 1st, 2007 at 11:15 pm

    Btw:
    I miss the comment:
    “It is CIA’s work”

28. 1ndra Says:
    February 1st, 2007 at 11:43 pm

    No, they’re thugs hired by Mossad.

29. Dimp Says:
    February 2nd, 2007 at 4:39 am

    Hi Hassan,

    It’s a complex issue and quite difficult to understand, unless you’re familiar with the geopolitical situation in the Middle East.

    So because it is complex and difficult to understand, people just blow each other up?

30. Ihaknt Says:
    February 2nd, 2007 at 7:12 am

    They’re probably the same mob who are hired for political rallies/campaigns. You know the ones who just need to change their t-shirts to a different color?

    I think rockstar is right, they cover their face because they farted at the same time.

    Hassan, no I won’t take nasi bungkus as payment. No way dude! I have better things to lobby about than being a muna person. But you know that there are a lot of starving people in Indonesia whose mind is easily corrupted. Anyone’s mind is easily corrupted when tummy is empty. And people do kill for petty crime over there. Hello??? Pos Kota??? Or you just read the ‘Nah Ini Dia’ section? (Mmmmm I actually miss that dodgy paper!)

    What I don’t get is why the govt seems not to do anything and instead, they are just taking it in. This is democracy gone wrong.

31. 1ndra Says:
    February 2nd, 2007 at 6:51 pm

    I am just going to correct you here, simple, because they are cowards, and they don’t want others to recognise them.

    I think rockstar is right, they cover their face because they farted at the same time.

    So why the anti terrorist police, swat or something like that, used cover too, mouth cover (I don’t think they have eaten Indonesian jengkol or forget to brush their teeth), even they are using helmet, bulletproof vest.
    Cowards?

32. Tomaculum Says:
    February 2nd, 2007 at 10:52 pm

    1ndra, these anti terror police and these special forces cover their face to protect their familiy and relatives from the vengeance of such terror groups or criminals. I’m sure you are clever enough to know this reason, aren’t you?

33. Julita Says:
    February 3rd, 2007 at 2:10 am

    Oh my, all discussing about why they cover their face, mouth etc. I recently heard there is a bird flu epidemic in Asia.

34. Tomaculum Says:
    February 3rd, 2007 at 2:15 am

    1ndra, to your comment of the February, 1st, 3:38 pm:

    Good people have many meanings, but here I mean, some of them aren’t bad boys/criminals, not someone who like disturbing other neighbours.

    Are you sure? Which neighbours? What about the neighbours with yellow skin and slit eye? Or those neighbours which have other faiths? Or do you mean neighbours with same skin and eye form and which follows the same religious stream? Sunnit or shiit?
    Do you believe that these people won’t disturb these neighbours, even if they are followers of the Ahmadiyah?
    I am a little, little bit sceptical.

    ____________

    Julita, bird flu is just one of the epidemies in Asia (read: Indonesia).

35. Dimp Says:
    February 3rd, 2007 at 4:14 am

    Hi Tomaculum,

    1ndra, these anti terror police and these special forces cover their face to protect their familiy and relatives from the vengeance of such terror groups or criminals. I’m sure you are clever enough to know this reason, aren’t you?

    It is bad enough when people start ignoring the law, but when they actually regard themselves as higher than the law then there is no place for them in this community. Unfortunately the law in Indo can still be bought. Tommy Suharto has proven this.

36. 1ndra Says:
    February 3rd, 2007 at 11:30 am

    1ndra, these anti terror police and these special forces cover their face to protect their familiy and relatives from the vengeance of such terror groups or criminals. I’m sure you are clever enough to know this reason, aren’t you?

    And how about the terrorist, are they using the mask to cover their family too?
    If anyone recognized their faces, their family is in danger too.

    But why police aren’t using masks as they are prone to revenge, I still remember the police who has been fined me.

    ___________

    Are you sure? Which neighbours? What about the neighbours with yellow skin and slit eye? Or those neighbours which have other faiths? Or do you mean neighbours with same skin and eye form and which follows the same religious stream? Sunnit or shiit?

    I’m not pointing bad boys Tom, people who gamble, thieves, you know what I mean, those are the example bad people.

    Do you believe that these people won’t disturb these neighbours, even if they are followers of the Ahmadiyah? I am a little, little bit sceptical.

    Me too, that was happened in Poso, when both sides aren’t respecting each others.
    At least it won’t happened in my community.

    ___________

    Oh my, all discussing about why they cover their face, mouth etc. I recently heard there is a bird flu epidemic in Asia.

    Better not discussing the masks/cover as both sides are using it.

37. Tomaculum Says:
    February 3rd, 2007 at 12:53 pm

    1ndra,
    “And how about the terrorist, are they using the mask to cover their family too?
    If anyone recognized their faces, their family is in danger too.
    But why police aren’t using masks as they are prone to revenge, I still remember the police who has been fined me. ”
    the special forces and the special police groups are founded to fight criminals and such terror groups and frequently they have to do under cover jobs, so it is contra productive if they are recognised, aren’t they? That is a further reason. I thought you know it already, so I didn’t need to write it. Your argument above is just like “debat kusir”, isn’t it?

    “I’m not pointing bad boys Tom, people who gamble, thieves, you know what I mean, those are the example bad people.”
    No, 1ndra, I honestly didn’t know what you meant. My view was directed to the picture above and still I don’t believe, that most of them are good people, like you meant. If they are good, I would anticipate, that they trying to help the poso people to rebuild the peace up there. And not to aggravate the situation.

    “Me too, that was happened in Poso, when both sides aren’t respecting each others.
    At least it won’t happened in my community. ”
    Let’s hope, 1ndra, let’s hope!

    Dimp,
    you’re right. The problem is unfortunately, that also the responsible ones (read: police, armee, government etc) do their movements on the verge and frequently enough beyond the valid law.

38. 1ndra Says:
    February 3rd, 2007 at 5:43 pm

    the special forces and the special police groups are founded to fight criminals and such terror groups and frequently they have to do under cover jobs, so it is contra productive if they are recognised, aren’t they? That is a further reason. I thought you know it already, so I didn’t need to write it. Your argument above is just like “debat kusir”, isn’t it?

    The same function, not being recognized.
    Just another ‘debat kusir’ Tom.

    No, 1ndra, I honestly didn’t know what you meant. My view was directed to the picture above and still I don’t believe, that most of them are good people, like you meant. If they are good, I would anticipate, that they trying to help the poso people to rebuild the peace up there. And not to aggravate the situation.

    What I mean good here is different than bad guys Tom, I know, it different. I just hope they change their name to Laskar Cinta instead. That’s what Poso needs.

39. Julita Says:
    February 3rd, 2007 at 10:54 pm

    Julita, bird flu is just one of the epidemies in Asia (read: Indonesia).

    I did check and I loset track, too many.

40. Fanglong Says:
    February 5th, 2007 at 10:04 pm

    While words are flying, men are dying.

41. Erwin Says:
    February 13th, 2007 at 2:33 pm

    Onward Jihadist!
    72 virgins are waiting for you.

42. Hassan Says:
    February 13th, 2007 at 4:02 pm

    “72 virgins are waiting for you”

    Yet another ignorant comment. As a Muslim, I have never ever found anything that sounded like that in the Quran or Hadith. The question is, where did that teaching (about the 72 virgins) came from? Propaganda? By whom?

    It’s interesting to note that there are more non-Muslims who were familiar with that 72 virgins ‘teaching’ than Muslims themselves.

43. Mermerize Says:
    March 10th, 2007 at 10:20 am

    I want to kill Jews and Christians with my own hands on the battlefield.
    (Saya sendiri ingin dengan tangan saya membunuh Yahudi dan Nasrani dalam medan perang.)

44. Fanglong Says:
    March 11th, 2007 at 6:16 pm

    Hi Mermerize, have some aspirine or something, then you’ll feel cooler. Or come here in Bali where people consider others with a real good heart. Puputan is glorious, nyupat can be courageous, and senyum has always the last word…

    As-salaam ‘alayka khuyya !

45. Tomaculum Says:
    March 11th, 2007 at 11:32 pm

    Fanglong, Mermerize should better take his dose of heroin.

46. Mokhtar Says:
    September 5th, 2007 at 10:22 am

    A question bother me: don’t these people and all of them who demonstrated for/against various things (like against the Playboy magazine etc) have to work to earn money like all of us?
    Or is working to earn money something trivial profane for them? Or are they have enough money? If yes, then from where?

    My response to such question:
    We, the Muslims,wherever or whoever we are are like a brick to a wall. If things going against our way of life (Islam), then it’s the responsibilities of every soul who profess that There Is No God but Allah and Mohammad is The Messenger of Allah to
    react against them (the unlawful) accordingly. About the money or work, they didn’t die from hunger, did they? Because Life is a gift from the Almighty, guaranteed.

    Cowards don’t wanna die, my friend, even looking for one.

    My response to such remark:
    the Laskar Jihad is one of the responses by the Muslims not only in Indonesia but worldwide. We the Muslims took such atrocities against Muslims as calls for jihad or holy war where gates of heaven are opened wide welcoming us. And with that remarks, it is irony to call these jihadists cowards.

    the laskar jihad is not the good one. Everyone knows the samurai sword is an old weapon!

    My response to such remark:
    The Iraqis and the Afghans are fighting against the heavily armed Nato and the West with ’samurai’ swords and they are winning the wars. How about that?

47. Tomaculum Says:
    September 5th, 2007 at 11:40 am

    Mokhtar,

    We, the Muslims,wherever or whoever we are are like a brick to a wall.

    What do you mean? A brick in the wall is a static figure, is it what you mean? So just being a brick further more or can it also be a part of the wall and secures the content of the room?

    We, the Muslims,wherever or whoever we are are like a brick to a wall. If things going against our way of life (Islam), then it’s the responsibilities of every soul who profess that There Is No God but Allah and Mohammad is The Messenger of Allah to react against them (the unlawful) accordingly.

    Could I interprete your statement/answer like this: kill all of them who aren’t moslem?
    Or how should you react?

    About the money or work, they didn’t die from hunger, did they? Because Life is a gift from the Almighty, guaranteed.

    But, before you do Jihad and die in “exploding” way you have to eat and drink something and to buy things to cover your aurats, don’t you? Don’t you need money for this all?
    Life is a gift from the Almighty, so we have to thank Him and attend this gift (including the life of others, which are surely also a gift from Him, aren’t they?).
    If someone doesn’t attend His gift, isn’t it an insult to Him?

48. Sylvester Says:
    September 5th, 2007 at 3:27 pm

    Waaao, I see several postings from moron radical islam. Wonder how to eliminate this virus.

49. Eagle Says:
    January 24th, 2008 at 9:41 pm

    This is Message for people who are against jihad.

    Make your death run away from you if you are true.

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