Bird Flu

Jan 16th, 2007, in Internet, by Patung

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Achmad Sudarsono Says:
January 18th, 2007 at 4:21 pm
My Indonesian Friends,

I URGE you for the good of the country, to take my warnings seriously. (The other possibility is that maybe you are help with the CIA). Friends, I ever love my country and will do anything to defend.

I ever saw an episode in ‘Alias’ where the CIA went to Bali! If you don’t believe me – it is in season 1. Maybe this one is scripted, but it is surely based on a true story. Think about it, friends.

Maybe AIDS was from Africa – but the CIA have many scientific labs!

BTW – I wouldn’t joke about U.F.Os either. Have you ever noticed the shape of the Borobudur? How is it possible they could build such a structure with their technology. That may be part of why the CIA and FBI want to control Indonesia: to prevent the knowledge of what Borobudur is getting out and to prevent too much investigation.

Please, my Indonesian friends, Be the Nationalist One.

Increase Da Peace
Sava Da Flava
Achmad
Ihaknt Says:
January 18th, 2007 at 5:14 pm
Well maybe we would be a bit more supportive of your views if it made more sense. Instead all you’re blabbing about sounds so funny and silly, we don’t know if you are joking or not.

Now the Borobudur was built by the aliens…mmmmm…you should contact Jerry Bruckheimer and write scripts with him, at least that way you use your imagination to entertain people.
Colson Says:
January 18th, 2007 at 8:08 pm
I’ve got a conspiracy theory too.

Probably Borat is taking part in the discussion using at least two different aliases.
Andrew Says:
January 18th, 2007 at 9:12 pm
Dear ONO team,
You failed to convince people that the CIA is responsible for those bad things, now you start blaming the Jews? you’re making an obnoxious, pathetic, and crude accusation.

You want to talk about evil things other countries have done to Indonesia? the westerners sure had their fair share, but why didn’t you talk about the 3.5 years of Japanese occupation? why didn’t you mention the evil influence of those middle eastern organizations spreading hatred among Indonesians (al-qaeda, just to name a few)? how about the communist? how about the communists? and while we’re on this one, how about what our own “Orde Baru” government did in 1965-1966 – “the great purge”?

Time has changed guys, do NOT spread lies. We all can be very good patriots and nationalists without blaming others – and that makes us Indonesians look much better.
Joy Says:
January 18th, 2007 at 10:41 pm
Bapak Achmad,

When I first read your posting, I thought you were just being funny and sarcastic!
Are you?

Can’t you see that people here are not taking you seriously?
I wonder if you have friends or relatives that you can talk to and share your theories? Don’t forget to mention about the Borobudur!
See what they have to say.
Ali Says:
January 18th, 2007 at 11:07 pm
Achmad Sudarsono, could it be that Srimulat is also run by a bunch of undercover CIA agents?

That Tukul guy may be one of them…. hmm, now that I think about it, I’m sure he’s one of them, I saw him talking on a cellphone the other day at Pondok Indah Mall, he must be contacting their headquarter!!
sgn Says:
January 18th, 2007 at 11:42 pm
Hahahahhaaa….
so much fun, here.

I am thinking to terminate my subscription to DiscoveryChannel and NationalGeography.

Hahahahhaaa….
so much fun, here.
Daryono Says:
January 18th, 2007 at 11:49 pm
Why didn’t you mention the evil influence of those middle eastern organizations spreading hatred among Indonesians (al-qaeda, just to name a few)?

Andrew; does al-qaeda actually exist in Indonesia? In fact does it actually exist at all? Or is it an invention; an excuse to invade Muslim countries. I know what I think and I know what Pak Achmad thinks; so as an Indonesian you should listen to your elders instead of CNN and then you might start to see the world as it really is.
Andrew Says:
January 19th, 2007 at 12:10 am
Daryono, I need to be VERY careful in filtering out the information I receive. I don’t blindly trust people, I don’t blindly believe CNN, Fox, ABC, NBC, Al-Jazeera, NHK, BBC, TVRI – you name it – either.

I find your point of view (“evil western influence”) outrageous, out of proportion, and very biased.

So the answer is YES, I probably can listen to anyone, including my elders, but NO I can’t always agree with their perspective.
Tomaculum Says:
January 19th, 2007 at 12:20 am
Daryono,

does al-qaeda actually exist in Indonesia? In fact does it actually exist at all? Or is it an invention; an excuse to invade Muslim countries. I know what I think and I know what Pak Achmad thinks; so as an Indonesian you should listen to your elders instead of CNN and then you might start to see the world as it really is.

1. How old are you both, you and Achmad Sudarsono?
2. With should listen to you? With these knowledges (?) and view you shown here?
3. What is the reallity, your view?
Ali Says:
January 19th, 2007 at 1:21 am
Daryono, give me just one reason why we should listen to you and your twin “ono” brother.

Tough to be an old guy with nothing else other than just being old, eh? The old way of convincing people by means of seniority doesn’t work anymore….

Old dogs worldwide had better find a way to learn new tricks…
Achmad Sudarsono Says:
January 19th, 2007 at 9:43 am
Dear Friends,

Let’s set the record straight: I think when Bpk Daryono meant ‘elders’ he was talking about wisdom rather than age. You all seem to be trying to be good Indonesians, but it is myself and Daryono that have been fighting to keep the Red and White Flag flying here.

- Thank you, Joy for my correct title.

Friends

1. Mr. Andrew, most people from the Middle East are good Muslims so they would never spread wild conspiracy theories, ridiculous ideas or hatred. Once again, it is the Zionists who are creating these organizations as an excuse to control and enslave Muslims.

2. It is not yet proven that Borobudur was put there by aliens. But what else can explain it ? There are even special capsules with cross-legged astronauts sitting in concentric circles waiting the right signal to bring them to life. This is part of why the CIA wants to control Indonesia – to allow NASA to perform secret research for U.F.O. technology.

3. I am not a communist. I have a conduct of good letter (surat kelakuan baik) from the local police signed by Bpk RT to prove this. Ok, Ok, So ‘Pak Harto made a few mistakes in 1965, and maybe the Japanese went a bit overboard in the ’40s, but its better than having the Meneer back and being the Jongos.

Also, I don’t hate Jews; if they converted to Islam there would be no problem.

4. Finally, friends, if myself and Bpk Daryono have to return to our duties of Dakwa, and struggling to keep Indonesia free, I recommend you watch the Sinetron “Hidayah”; it contains many stories which would help someone like Mr. Andrew.

Increase Da Peace
Sava Da Flava.
Achmad
Andrew Says:
January 19th, 2007 at 9:51 am
Achmad,

(1) Crap.
(2) Crap.
(3) “if they converted to Islam there would be no problem”. WHEN PIGS FLY.
(4) Watch “Hidayah”? I don’t need no stinkin’ sinetron. You’re the one who needs help; please watch Phsycho the movie, you’ll find it familiar.

And finally, for God’s sake, see a shrink.
Dimp Says:
January 19th, 2007 at 9:54 am
Hi Achmad,

For some reason I have a feeling that you are just another zit-faced-16-year-old kid that just discover the world of conspiracies and internet.

1. Mr. Andrew, most people from the Middle East are good Muslims so they would never spread wild conspiracy theories, ridiculous ideas or hatred. Once again, it is the Zionists who are creating these organizations as an excuse to control and enslave Muslims.

Can you then explain why the struggle between sunni and shiah? Or is this just another CIA-Mossad conspiracy?

2. It is not yet proven that Borobudur was put there by aliens. But what else can explain it ?

It is called “hard work” by our people back then, you may probably never heard of this term.

Also, I don’t hate Jews; if they converted to Islam there would be no problem.

Which Islam would you prefer these Jews to be converted to? Sunni, Syiah, Ahmadiyah?

All and all I think you are just here to provoke people.

Thank you for your entertainment.
Mohammed Khafi Says:
January 19th, 2007 at 10:09 am
Come on everybody, the Ono’s are winding you all up, this used to be a place where sensible discussion and debate took place, at least most of the time! Just ignore them, and lets have some worthwhile comments again.

Peace
Grace and Mercy Says:
January 19th, 2007 at 10:16 am
Yes, and let’s not forget the fact that there are people suffering in the hospital right now because of this disease and there are suffering families who just lost their loved ones.
Andrew Says:
January 19th, 2007 at 10:20 am
But I’d miss all the fun )
Dimp Says:
January 19th, 2007 at 10:28 am
Hi,

Just heard from my friend too that as of February that no one in Jakarta is allowed to keep birds as pets.

It just shows that our government always tries very hard to find a very silly way to deal with issues.
1ndra Says:
January 19th, 2007 at 11:30 am
About hygiene, how about starting from ourselves, our home?
Have you clean your home …at least your private room first… this morning?

Hey watchout!
It’s only a small countdown before the heavy rains occur, if we let that junks sitting duck, just wait before another disease occur!
Miss Indo 07 Says:
January 20th, 2007 at 7:56 pm
Tomaculum said:

“Hi, guys, A. Sudarsono is right: don’t you all know, that CIA is Jewish and the homosexuals are Jewish and CIA and all of the birds flying in the sky are Jewish and homosexual?
And I have read here somewhere in this blog, that Baa’syir is an CIA agent. So he is a bird? Hmm, sorry, ..a Jew? Or what?”

—> No Tomaculum, they must be chinese.
Tomaculum Says:
January 20th, 2007 at 11:26 pm
Miss Indo 07,
which chinese? Glodok chinese or from Hong Kong?
Hmm…. bird? Chinese? CIA?
Mis Indo 07, you make me confuse. By for a while, I’ll drink my wine so maybe I can see things clearly again.
Or was it Ba’syir? A bird …? Hmm….?
sgn Says:
January 20th, 2007 at 11:38 pm
Principle of population (Malthus)

The power of population is so superior to the power of the earth to produce subsistence for man, that premature death must in some shape or other visit the human race. The vices of mankind are active and able ministers of depopulation. They are the precursors in the great army of destruction, and often finish the dreadful work themselves. But should they fail in this war of extermination, sickly seasons, epidemics, pestilence, and plague advance in terrific array, and sweep off their thousands and tens of thousands. Should success be still incomplete, gigantic inevitable famine stalks in the rear, and with one mighty blow levels the population with the food of the world. ”

This Principle of Population was based on the idea that population if unchecked increases at a geometric rate (i.e. 2, 4, 8, 16, etc.) whereas the food supply grows at an arithmetic rate (i.e. 1, 2, 3, 4, etc.).

Only natural causes (eg. accidents and old age), misery (war, pestilence, and above all famine), moral restraint and vice (which for Malthus included infanticide, murder, contraception and homosexuality)[citation needed] could check excessive population growth.
Bas Says:
January 21st, 2007 at 12:39 am
Whatever. All the problems Indonesia is facing now is not because we are a stupid backward fanatic blind nation but because of the USA. Allah akbar!
Daryono Says:
January 21st, 2007 at 12:50 am
Last June, the producers, writers and several actors from 24 joined U.S. Homeland Security chief Michael Chertoff at a Washington, D.C. panel discussion sponsored by the Heritage Foundation.

The panel, titled “24 and America’s Image in Fighting Terrorism: Fact, Fiction or Does It Matter?” drew a crowd to the Ronald Reagan Building & International Trade Center that included U.S. Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas, among other political luminaries. Right-wing radio host Rush Limbaugh, who noted that U.S. Vice-President Dick Cheney and former Secretary of State Donald Rumsfeld “are huge fans of 24″, was master of ceremonies.

Why do you think that Cheney and Rumsfeld are such “huge fans of 24″? Could it be that that is the way they see the world and would like it to be? Fact or fiction? You decide.
Andrew Says:
January 21st, 2007 at 1:42 am
Suuure, it’s all because of those darn yankees.

Seriously, we can make ourselves less pathetic a nation by facing the reality (that we still have a long way to go), and by standing up for ourselves. Or of course we could stay where we are and become more pathetic.

_____________

For God’s sake, stop blaming others, whoever they are.
sgn Says:
January 21st, 2007 at 7:23 am
Bas Says:
January 21st, 2007 at 12:39 am
Whatever. All the problems Indonesia is facing now is not because we are a stupid backward fanatic blind nation but because of the USA. Allah akbar!

Wow. What a short-cut is that. Ck ck ck ck ck…..
Ihaknt Says:
January 21st, 2007 at 8:47 am
Why do you think that Cheney and Rumsfeld are such “huge fans of 24″³?

I very much doubt this is a fact. Ono brothers, are you related to Yoko? by the way, I noticed you got rid of the not-so-cute-it’s-actually-annoying embel2. Thanks.

Dimp, come on, give the government a bit of a credit for ‘trying’. I do feel sorry for the chicken farmers. I hope the next step government would do is to financially help these already-struggling-to-survive people, or am I being too optimistic for my own country?

Hey does it mean that we no longer can eat fried chicken? ( I pray it will never happen. such simple food, but such yummy one.
Paul Says:
February 2nd, 2007 at 7:15 am
I have Muslim, Jewish, Christian friends who I would trust with the life of my children. As a non zionist, non Christian, non homosexual, atheistic, pro-third world advocate, who really doesn’t trust what the American’s are doing in the world of late, I can tell you that, to me, bird flu is no plot. We are all one in this quagmire.

I am Canadian and as far away from your situation as possible. I don’t know your politics, I don’t really know your culture, I really don’t understand American or Israeli policy, but I do know that bird flu is a threat to me and my family. There is no conspiracy, there is no grand plan. It is a virus that somehow came into being, that is mutating into an uncontrollable monster. It just so happens that much of the activity is occuring in Indo.

Governments and people around the world are preparing for a time when H5N1 becomes pandemic. A lot of time, energy and money is spent on this issue, thousands of miles away from Jakarta. The threat does not recognize politics, does not recognize religion, does not recognize nationalities.

People, poulty and other mammals are becoming infected and, with every infection, the virus is changing. Please, get control of the situation before it gets worse. Pointing fingers is pointless.

I hope for the best, prepare for the worst.
1ndra Says:
February 7th, 2007 at 8:38 am
Kedaulatan Rakyat, 7 Februari 2007Terkait merebaknya isu flu burung, para peternak ayam di Yogyakarta menilai isu flu burung terlalu dibesar-besarkan. Sangat mungkin hal ini menjadi cara agar chicken leg quarter (CLQ) atau paha ayam dari Amerika bisa masuk ke Indonesia. Hal ini bisa dilihat dengan akan keluarnya surat izin dari Menteri Perdagangan Indonesia yang mengizinkan paha ayam asal Amerika masuk ke Indonesia.
Menurut drh HM Taufiq Junaidi MMA, peternak ayam sekaligus konsultan agribisnis, adanya isu flu burung yang semakin gencar semakin menunjukakan adanya konspirasi global akan masuknya daging ayam impor ke Indonesia.

Mass killing the birds and chickens in Indonesia and the same time allowed the aboard chickens being imported?

Well that’s sound for me like killing the local breeder too.