Natural Disasters

Dec 27th, 2006, in News, by

President Yudhoyono advises the people not to be superstitious about natural disasters.

President Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono, putting some distance between himself and some of his rather superstitious predecessors, namely presidents Suharto and Gus Dur, said on the 20th of December that natural disasters were inevitable in Indonesia, for geological and other environmental reasons, and that the people should not think of them in terms of their mystical beliefs or as a result of political happenings.

Krakatau
Krakatau: The Destruction and Reassembly of an Island Ecosystem.

The various earthquakes, such as the one in Yogyakarta in May 2006, and the southern Java earthquake and tsunami of July, as well as the massive Indian Ocean tsunami of 2004, that had happened recently were not unusual and in the past much worse catastrophes had occured.

More than one thousand years ago a Sumatran volcano erupted creating a gigantic hole that we now know as Toba Lake. It is believed the Sumatran volcano's eruption was the most horrifying explosion ever registered on earth but this event has long been forgotten by people today.

Then again at the beginning of the 19th century, Mt. Tambora erupted killing tens of thousands of people. Later that century Mt Krakatau erupted and also killed untold numbers. antara

Dust from the Mt. Krakatau eruption reached Europe while a tsunami following the eruption swept through the islands of Java, Sumatra, Kalimantan and the Malaysian peninsula.


45 Comments on “Natural Disasters”

  1. avatar Ali says:

    President Yudhoyono advises the people not to be superstitious about natural disasters.

    We should think about it from a religious point of view. There is a clear, visible pattern, which I’d rather not mention in this forum.

  2. avatar Mohammed Khafi says:

    Mythos or Logos?

    Mythos will drag us back to the days of ignorance, Logos will allow us to move forward using knowledge, science, reasoning and logic to a new age of enlightenment. Are science and religion compatible? Too right they are!

    Ali you go back to your dukun, lucky charms, love potions and superstition, you can share your life with babi ngepet and kuntilanak just don’t drag the rest of the people into your superstitious darkness.

  3. avatar 1ndra says:

    Nature disasters are nature disasters, I hope.

    Hope that they arent manmade, and I’m not thinking anything related to syirik.

  4. avatar Mohammed Khafi says:

    Hi 1ndra,

    There are some who would like us to belive that their manmade disasters such as Sidoarjo are natural disasters “The steaming mud flow in Sidoarjo is a natural disaster which seems impossible to overcome, Adhie MassardI said in a function to explain the report of …

  5. avatar 1ndra says:

    Yeah, poor people, and my friend live not far away from there, just a few kilometers.

  6. avatar Andrew says:

    The Sidoarjo mud issue is clearly caused by human. Attempts to describe it as a natural disaster is a cover-up attempt to deny accountability. The disaster is definitely of an epic proportion, and that company must be held accountable.

    We’ll see how justice is served in a case of this magnitude.

  7. avatar Tomaculum says:

    We are also nature disaster, aren’t we?

  8. avatar 1ndra says:

    Right Tomaculum, we are human, we are nature.

  9. avatar Olong Olong says:

    Guys,

    Have you ever thought what would happened if Lapindo is owned by Chinese conglomerate ?

    Will Indonesian f#$k-ing Govt consider this as a natural disaster??

    peace

    O2

  10. avatar Tomaculum says:

    1ndra: and we are disastrous.

  11. avatar Ali says:

    Isn’t it clear who to blame? The Lapindo disaster is either caused by the Israelis, or the Chinese.

  12. avatar Ihaknt says:

    Ali, wtf?! No, it was CIA and the Americans who are responsible…Everything that goes wrong in this world is their fault. We ourselves are never at blame. I tripped and fell this morning, i truly believed that the CIA intendedly put the door mat in an angle so I would trip. And I did! Bloody CIA! There must’ve been some kind of a conspiracy.

  13. avatar Olong Olong says:

    Ali,

    Chinese people are smarter than pribumi conglomerates, they just wait and see…someday when the Lapindo Mud can be proccessed to be something usefull, then…Chinese conglomerates will come to play… :))

    So, you be patient……don’t blame chinese…at least not now.

    O2

  14. avatar Hassan says:

    Naah, the CIA don’t place boobytrapped door mats, that looks more like the works of mossad to me, seriously. It got mossad written all over it.

    Their next move will be placing bananas over your driveway. Beware of the Jews!!!

    BTW, what you said is not a conspiracy, that’s a reality. The conspiracy theory is the recent gossip that george w. bush is a liar. What a wild one!

  15. avatar 1ndra says:

    Instead placing a tank outside your house with its mounted cannon right at your door. 😀

  16. avatar Ihaknt says:

    I like the Jews because when I go to dinner to their place I can be sure I am not eating any pork. Gossip is not a gossip if it’s true, d’oh! Oh and I like boobies, so I hope the boobytraps is the kind of boobies I like. 😉 But there’s another story all together.

  17. avatar Dimp says:

    I thought the Arabs were behind CIA and Mossad, and the Americans are behind the Arabs, but the Jews are the one driving the Americans, and Big Bird, Ernie, and Bert are the ones that we actually need to be fearful off.

    This message has been brought to you by the letter P, for Paranoid, and the letter of C for Conspiracy.

  18. avatar Ihaknt says:

    Big Bird, Ernie, and Bert are the ones that we actually need to be fearful off.

    That’s right. They are corrupting the children since a very young age.

    Dimp, the C word can be taken as something else.

  19. avatar 1ndra says:

    I thought the Arabs were behind CIA and Mossad, and the Americans are behind the Arabs, but the Jews are the one driving the Americans, and Big Bird, Ernie, and Bert are the ones that we actually need to be fearful off.

    This message has been brought to you by the letter P, for Paranoid, and the letter of C for Conspiracy.

    That’s might look like this : Disasters by CIA by Mossad by Arabs by American by Jew

    Ihaknt’s slip by Big Bird, Ernie, and Bert

    1ndra -> Aspirin
    Now, where’s mine?

    😀

  20. avatar Hassan says:

    Big Bird, Ernie and Bert are just henchmen. The real king pin is Kermit. And Kermit’s a half Jew. Beware of Kermit!!! Run for your lives!

  21. avatar Dimp says:

    I thought Kermit represents the PPP as he always wears “green”.

  22. avatar Ihaknt says:

    Nothing wrong with Jews. Jews are just a race who believe in a different belief from mine. Just like any race, there are bad apples. Thankfully, all the Jews I know are nice, law abiding citizens, very rich, respectful and easy going. While some of the Moslems and chiristians I know are a**holes. Hence they are not my friends.

    Dimp what is P3?

  23. avatar 1ndra says:

    Some kind of Partai 🙂

  24. avatar DianDoank says:

    partai persatuan pembangunan? correct?

    btw for Sidoarjo, I read at the detik.com there is a similarity between these mud disaster with those that happened in Japan (don’t remember the cities) after earthquake. And the last Jogya earthquake might induced this mud-disaster (according one of the geology prof. from Tokyo if I am not mistaken-couldn’t find the link hmf). But I found this http://rovicky.wordpress.com/2006/06/27/mungkinkah-gempa-penyebab-mud-flow/ which might can be an additional cause for Sidoarjo.

  25. avatar Dimp says:

    Hi Dian Doank,

    Either way, what actually causes the mud flow, the important thing is what the Indonesian government is actually doing to take care of this incident.

    The track record of the government in caring for the people who fell victims to natural disasters (tsunami in Aceh, earthquake in Yogya etc), as well as other incidents (the recent Adam Air incident, the messy haj pilgrimage that left people with no food for 30 hours) has been simply appaling.

    It is time for these ‘fat cats’ in Jakarta to own up and be responsible for this mess, start acting like grown ups. I mean they are getting paid to do their job, if what they do is blame others, we can do it ourselves, why do we bother paying these politicians?

  26. avatar 1ndra says:

    The Adam Air incident…well these discussion are flowing in other forum. Patung please comeback and add this hottest topic please.

  27. avatar Ihaknt says:

    Leave Patung on his holiday. He needs a break from loonies like us. 😉 I am sure he will fire away when he is back.

  28. avatar 1ndra says:

    I hope he isn’t reading news, so he have a fresh holiday. 🙂

  29. avatar Hassan says:

    Ihaknt: you’re too serious. 😀

  30. avatar Dimp says:

    I hope the Adam Air incident will open the eyes of the officials or any other parties involved that by cutting the costs of already low cost carriers that they are playing with people lives.

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