Poligami Award

Dec 17th, 2006, in IM Posts, by

An Islamic court in West Sumatra puts on trial Aa Gym and Yahya Zaini.

The Majelis Tinggi Kerapatan Adat Alam Minangkabau, or the Minangkabau Traditional Culture High Council, in cooperation with the Komite Penegak Syariat Islam Sumatra Barat, the West Sumatra Committee for the Application of Islamic Sharia Law, held a mock trial of polygamist Abdullah Gymnastiar and adulterer Yahya Zaini on the 14th of December, with the title Indahnya Poligami dan Bejatnya Berselingkuh, the Beauty of Polygamy and the Depravity of Adultery, at the Al-Wustha mosque in Padang. It seems, from the title, that the judgement of the court was a foregone conclusion.

Abdullah Aa Gym Gymnastiar
The lucky winner.

Both the two men were portrayed by impromptu actors, as were other well-known figures, including womens' activist Siti Masidah, Minister of Religion Maftuh Basyuni, and Minister for Womens' Empowerment Meutia Hatta.

The actor portraying Aa Gym explained that he had decided to take a second wife as a way of avoiding adultery, which is forbidden by religion. "Yahya Zaini" too admitted that he wanted to practise polygamy but his career as a politician made this a difficult choice.

Yahya Zaini
Glum faced Yahya.

Finally, after hearing all the witness testimony and after some serious deliberation, Aa Gym was not only acquitted, assuming any charges were actually laid against him, but he was awarded a prize, the Poligami Award, while naughty politician and unwilling porn film star Yahya Zaini was sentenced to death by stoning, in absentia. [1]


58 Comments on “Poligami Award”

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  1. avatar 1ndra says:
    December 17th, 2006 at 10:38 pm

    Well that was a good ‘trial’, lol :D

  2. avatar Ihaknt says:
    December 18th, 2006 at 5:20 am

    hehehe :), another dagelan to keep people entertained.

  3. avatar Bradlymail says:
    December 18th, 2006 at 8:31 am

    Both deserve those awards. Congratulation both you!

  4. avatar Grace and Mercy says:
    December 18th, 2006 at 11:47 am

    It shows that we as a nation is completely depressed that we constantly need to humorize ourselves with this tired old issue…

    Can we tackle issues such as poverty, human rights abuses, rice and kerosene shortages please????

  5. avatar 1ndra says:
    December 18th, 2006 at 5:36 pm

    Grace and Mercy: Yes, we badly needed it. Something sharp, clear point and sure entertaining :)

  6. avatar cris says:
    December 18th, 2006 at 6:45 pm

    Hmmm…

  7. avatar Mohammed Khafi says:
    December 18th, 2006 at 8:31 pm

    Ihaknt said:

    another dagelan to keep people entertained

    It is not just entertainment, but when it is carried out by Majelis Tinggi Kerapatan Adat Alam Minangkabau, with the Komite Penegak Syariat Islam Sumatra Barat it is a form of brainwashing or conditioning for the unthinking masses.

    Grace and Mercy said:

    Can we tackle issues such as poverty, human rights abuses, rice and kerosene shortages please????

    Please don’t be blinded to the facts, if Islamisation of Indonesia is allowed to continue at it’s present pace those issues wil multiply many times over, this conditioning is part of the process.

  8. avatar Ihaknt says:
    December 19th, 2006 at 5:14 am

    MK, you make me really sad! :(, It saddens me to think that these people ARE being brainwashed. What a waste huh? Why cant they think for themselves? Do you think they are just to lazy to think?
    MK and all the people above who seem to use their brains, what can we do about this so called Islamisation?

  9. avatar Dimp says:
    December 19th, 2006 at 9:44 am

    Hi Ihaknt,

    Islamisation is not all bad, if they are actually making people better, but at the moment it seems through the actions of the so called “Islam defenders” they are actually making a mockery out of Islam.

  10. avatar Fanglong says:
    December 19th, 2006 at 4:09 pm

    I don’t like, and I disapprove this one : “naughty politician and unwilling porn film star Yahya Zaini was sentenced to death by stoning, in absentia”.
    Very bad habit of playing with people’s life. All these stonings, amputations, etc. are mere barbaric practices, or ideas. There are so many urgent issues —
    I don’t like stories where death (killing) etc. is considered as a sane solution.

    Could Tomaculum — and others — tell more on kejawen ?

    Salam !

  11. avatar Longlifelearning says:
    December 19th, 2006 at 9:26 pm

    Mohammed Khafi Said

    Can we tackle issues such as poverty, human rights abuses, rice and kerosene shortages please????

    Please don’t be blinded to the facts, if Islamisation of Indonesia is allowed to continue at it’s present pace those issues wil multiply many times over, this conditioning is part of the process.

    Your opinion is foundless and out of context, especially in poverty issue. The main cause of poverty in Indonesia is corruption, and it’s against Islam and all other religions teaching.

  12. avatar Mohammed Khafi says:
    December 19th, 2006 at 10:14 pm

    longlifelearning said:

    Your opinion is foundless and out of context, especially in poverty issue. The main cause of poverty in Indonesia is corruption, and it’s against Islam and all other religions teaching.

    I think it is well founded and very in context, there have been many examples of people who masquerade as religious leaders, or who portray themselves as pious religious people, even a minister of religious affairs, who have been found commiting corrupt practices, they have used religion to hide behind because their own supporters cannot see their faults. This will only get worse if Shariaisation is allowed to continue, because Sharia is used to control the people, to oppress them and make them live in constant fear.

    The facts are quite clear, Islamic countries, where Sharia is practiced are some of the most corrupt in the world, they are also by and large the most poverty ridden apart from some minor exceptions. if you want the figures they are here ETHICS AND CORRUPTION IN MUSLIM COUNTRIES FACT VERSUS FICTION.

    I agree with you totally that poverty in this country is mainly caused by corruption and all religious teachings are against corruption. However this doesn’t seem to have helped the countries on the lists on the above link, perhaps the corruption is not just about money perhaps it is the corruption of the religion, and the hearts and souls of those who hide their criminal practices behind it which is the real issue.

  13. avatar Bradlymail says:
    December 20th, 2006 at 8:08 am

    My opinion, if we practised ‘sharia law’ is something like we governed by dictactor!

  14. avatar Longlifelearning says:
    December 20th, 2006 at 10:00 am

    I think the implementation of Islamic values in Muslim society will not “multiply many times” of poverty in Indonesia as stated before. It’s the other way around.
    The people mentioned above were not implementing the values, we should not be stereotypical here.
    For CPI data, the data was mislead, we should see complete list of CPI on TI website, there is no correlation between sharia-run country and their position on CPI nor the poverty level of them. (There were not ‘minor exception’ as stated, most of sharia-run country are rich, however, I must say again, there is no correlation between sharia-run country and their richness). Moreover from the UN’s list of 50 least developed contries, http://www.un.org/special-rep/ohrlls/ldc/list.htm, most of them in Africa, their people belong to many religions. So, to sum up, I don’t think there is strong correlation between Islam (or religion for general) practised by the people and corruption or poverty level. (The poverty are so multidimensional problem, I hope we can have other post to discuss about it)
    I agree with the relation between corruption and poverty, but I just can’t accept the idea that practicing Islamic values can multiply poverty level in Indonesia. I’ve been trying to practise them as in sharia financial and banking system, zakat for development, political participation, and one of my objective is to give little for the poor, it just unfair to said that Islamisation worsened the poverty condition in Indonesia.
    (I define Islamisation here as implementation of Islamic values among the Muslims)

    perhaps the corruption is not just about money perhaps it is the corruption of the religion, and the hearts and souls of those who hide their criminal practices behind it which is the real issue

    You’re totally right MK, so it’s the person, not the religion.

  15. avatar 1ndra says:
    December 20th, 2006 at 10:49 am

    Yes the person’s morality, religious or other high regarded title most time built only for excuse.

  16. avatar Mohammed Khafi says:
    December 20th, 2006 at 3:12 pm

    longlifelearning,

    You said:

    I’ve been trying to practise them as in sharia financial and banking system, zakat for development, political participation, and one of my objective is to give little for the poor, it just unfair to said that Islamisation worsened the poverty condition in Indonesia.

    I also try and live my life according to my understanding of the Laws of Allah, however in my case based on Al Quran, but this is our personal choice as it should be for all people.

    But we have to realise that we live in a country which is overloaded with criminality and corruption and the impementaion of Sharia based law will only give the criminals and corruptors another barrier of protection because once Sharia is implemented people will be frightened to stand up for their rights. It is all too common a practice for the corruptors to use their twisted interpretation of law for their own benefit.

    Sharia has been used since the end of the era of the Rightly Guided Caliphs to oppress the people, it does not uphold the common standards of democracy and human rights which we should expect in this day and age. If you wish to use Sharia as a basis for your lifestyle by all means do so out of your own freewill, but do not impose your will on others.

    Allah sent all of his scriptures as a guidance and as a means of upholding the rights of the poor and oppressed and as a means of ensuring their social welfare, in my opinion Sharia has not done this and therefore it cannot be based on Allahs law.

    You are quite correct when you state that practicing Islamic values should not worsen the poverty condition, but I do not consider Sharia to be truely Islamic as it is based predominantly on manmade Hadith and has too many contradictions to Allahs Law as given in Al Quran.

    The implementation of Sharia is analagous with the Politicisation of Islam and should have no place in a pluralistic country such as ours. We were told for years by the government that the Achenese wanted Sharia Law (another example of religion being used for political power), but we have seen that since they were given a chance to vote they have rejected Islamic parties and chosen pluralistic leaders. Do you think that under full Sharia law that they would have even been given a chance to make that choice?

    A section from the “No To Political Islam” site sums up my feeling completely on this matter:

    But Political Islam is not the answer to either western arrogance or political corruption. It seeks to return Muslims to the dark ages, limiting educational opportunity, denying the right of women to participate fully as adults in the life of the community, denying equality to non-Muslims, and imposing its own brutal and outmoded interpretation of Sharia law on every aspect of public life.

    Among the hungry and destitute, Political Islam gained support with the promise of salvation for the dispossessed. But while drawing its strength from those who would fight oppression, it seeks to enslave all Muslims. It opposes progressive movements for liberty, freedom, justice and equality, and is opposed to cultural and intellectual progress. Throughout history Muslim reformers have opened up new vistas of intellectual and cultural achievement, tolerance and diversity. Political Islam on the contrary, seeks a narrow, petty, joyless, intolerant and closed society. It rejects all modernity, science and technology – except the technology of death.

    Political Islam is a reactionary movement that has no place in the modern world. Over the last two decades, millions have been, and continue to be, murdered – shot, decapitated, stoned to death, and publicly hanged – by Islamic regimes and movements in Iran, the Sudan, Afghanistan, Algeria, Egypt, Nigeria, and Central Asia, while millions more have been forced into exile. The Islamists equate even well-founded dissent with blasphemy. Thousands of Muslim opponents have been killed and millions silenced through fear. Our silence is taken as support for the Islamist agenda. But the vast majority of the world’s Muslims reject Political Islam. The time has come for our voices to be heard.

    True Islamic values yes, Sharia no!

  17. avatar Grace and Mercy says:
    December 20th, 2006 at 3:29 pm

    Dear Mohammed Khafi,

    I don’t think I’m blinded to the fact that this country is going down the drain and I feel really strongly that Sharia is not able to fix the problem. I do believe that our nation is bound by spiritual poverty and stupidity in all levels.

    Only God, not Sharia, can help this country. The two are completely different from each other. That’s why i believe we should even be more fervent in praying for our nation. It is in such a depressing state!

    I want to share a scripture from 2 Chronicles 7:14 in the old testament of my holy book (the Bible) that I believe is relevant to all of us:

    if my people, who are called by my name, will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then will I hear from heaven and will forgive their sin and will heal their land.

  18. avatar 1ndra says:
    December 20th, 2006 at 4:08 pm

    Well, what we have here nowadays…democracy and right to porn, democracy and right to steal…
    In my opinion, we need some hardened laws, dont you see so much innocent people left unprotected without good laws. They behave good and with their morality they couldnt do crime. BUT they are easy and soft crime targets. Because the bad people dont fear laws and love to bug innocent people. Bad people dont like to bug bad people, its just like they kill theirself. But with hardened laws, they will be ‘killed’ by it, because wherever they flee, the laws will get ‘em.
    Good people shouldnt fear the hardened laws, because they didnt like to do crime and the hardened laws wont ‘kill’ them.

    We need hardened laws, sharia or not, no problem. And the carrier should behave like Judge Bao, uncorrupted court.
    …and justice for all.

  19. avatar Mohammed Khafi says:
    December 20th, 2006 at 8:38 pm

    Grace and Mercy,

    Not just your holy book, all true Muslims should know that all the Gods scriptures have relevance to us! :-)

    1ndra,

    I agree with you completely that what we need is to protect the weak, the oppressed and those of good faith. But as long as there is corrupt law making, law enforcement and judicial systems it will do no good.

    We already have criminal laws in this country but then we have so many examples of poor application which invariably benefits the rich and powerful and punishes the poor and the weak.

    We need to all stand together and make our voices heard, that enough is enough, that we the people demand change, we have to let the government, judiciary and the police know how we feel!

    Peace

  20. avatar Longlifelearning says:
    December 20th, 2006 at 11:03 pm

    Salam MK,

    We were told for years by the government that the Achenese wanted Sharia Law (another example of religion being used for political power), but we have seen that since they were given a chance to vote they have rejected Islamic parties and chosen pluralistic leaders. Do you think that under full Sharia law that they would have even been given a chance to make that choice?

    I agree MK, but that means also, if Acehnese want to apply Sharia law in the future, shouldn’t we have to respect them to? it’s democracy things, right?
    I hope they will, so maybe we can learn something then :D
    Thanks, I learn many things from this post.
    Peace
    OOT: Dec 22, Mother’s Day in Indonesia, well actually, everyday should be special day for her, but for some who have missed them, I think tomorrow will be a good time to give her a little gift.

  21. avatar Hassan says:
    December 20th, 2006 at 11:16 pm

    Again Muhammad khafi, i need to ask why are you so worried about the “Islamisation of Indonesia”, but not the westernization of Indonesia? Would you be happier if Indonesia suffered from a full fledged ongoing westernization of Indonesia (as it currently does) where anything western is idolized and practiced and our own cultures and philosophies being thrown down the drain, or Islamization in which Indonesian Muslims tried to return to the Quran (and hadith, although you will deeply object)??

    I think a good Muslim will actually be happy if his religion is spreading it’s influence in the lives of Indonesians, but I don’t see you the same way. Would you prefer more if we think and act more like the unbelieving westerners?

    Quran 2:120 “Never will the Jews or the Christians be satisfied with thee unless thou follow their form of religion. Say: “The Guidance of Allah,-that is the (only) Guidance.” Wert thou to follow their desires after the knowledge which hath reached thee, then wouldst thou find neither Protector nor helper against Allah.”

    Bradlymail: How can both YZ and Aa Gym receive the award if YZ never practiced polygamy in the first place? What he did was adultery. There is a huge difference there, my friend.

    ——-

    Mohammed Khafi: Btw, I also had problems with your believe (your personally done interpretation of the Quran) that:

    - Muslims may drink alcohol if done proporsionately.
    - Adultery is better than polygamy, now that’s outrageous.

  22. avatar Tomaculum says:
    December 20th, 2006 at 11:47 pm

    Longlifelearning,

    I would like to learn more, so my questions to your statement:

    I agree MK, but that means also, if Acehnese want to apply Sharia law in the future, shouldn’t we have to respect them to? it’s democracy things, right?

    Question 1: Has anyone or any official body ever checked/examined, if the sharia law is compatible with the governmental earthen law? What is to do, if some of the sharia laws are not comply to the gov. accordant parts of the gov. laws? Which one is valid?

    Question 2: In an unclear case, which law would prevail: sharia law or governmental law?

    Question 3: If the sharia law is only valid for Moslems, what about non Moslems, who do misdeeds, which are also forbidden in Islam? Example: Has the hand of a non-Moslem thief also to be amputated (in cases he/she can be rescued from the lynch justice of the mob).

    Hassan,

    the unbelieving westerners

    They believe, Hassan, but most of the westerner believe in Christianity. It is presumptuous to name people with other faiths as unbeliever, isn’t it? I think that is the problem.

    Quran 2:120

    Never will the Jews or the Christians be satisfied with thee unless thou follow their form of religion. Say: “The Guidance of Allah,-that is the (only) Guidance.” Wert thou to follow their desires after the knowledge which hath reached thee, then wouldst thou find neither Protector nor helper against Allah.

    And the Moslems are satisfied to see the other don’t follow the Islam religion? It is very sad for me, that there still many educated and intelligent people hold, their believes/faiths are the best and the only truthful.

  23. avatar Hassan says:
    December 21st, 2006 at 1:07 am

    Mohammed Khafi: I would like to clarify that what I meant was that would you like it more if Muslims followed the Islamic way of live or the ways of the westerners and their pre conceptions and values?

    And can you help me understand that if Islam is not the only truthful and best way of live then what does the verse suppose to mean if following Christianity and judaism is an allowed alternative? Why didn’t it say that following those other faiths is ok?

    2:120 “Never will the Jews or the Christians be satisfied with thee unless thou follow their form of religion. Say: “The Guidance of Allah,-that is the (only) Guidance.” Wert thou to follow their desires after the knowledge which hath reached thee, then wouldst thou find neither Protector nor helper against Allah.”

    I never said that only Muslims can enter paradise, it is Allah’s prerogative right to judge us. But as Muslims we should follow the way of live that Allah SWT had prescribed, the Islamic one. that’s why i asked the question of why are you so worried if Islamization is coming to Indonesia, but you don’t seem to mind about the ever advancing westernization here? Which one would you choose, khafi? A westernized Indonesia or Islamized one?

    You can’t say Indonesia as it is because we all knew it’s fading. Where’s our old cultures and heritage? Fading away. Either swallowed by westernization or Islamization.

  24. avatar Munafikbangetloepade says:
    December 21st, 2006 at 1:23 am

    Hassan,

    I hope you and people like you can go to heaven. Enjoy the heaven to the fullest.

    I prefer to stay with mother earth, with my fellow human beings, no matter how imperfect it is.

    And, as an Indonesian, I strongly reject Islamisation of Indonesia. I believe more and more people are doing that.

    Why? Because I strongly think that Islam, the way it is now, will not help Indonesian people live a better life.

    Examples: saudi Arabia, kuwait, etc. They maybe rich in oil and money. But I would hate living in that kind of society.

    Now, let’s discuss what “better life” really is.

  25. avatar Hassan says:
    December 21st, 2006 at 2:01 am

    Off course you would reject it, Munafikbangetloepade. I understand that non-Muslims will reject the idea. Muslims, Hindus, Buddhist and atheists will also reject the idea of a Christianized Indonesia, for example. But Muhammad Khafi is a Muslim, that is why i asked him the question, we’re discussing the probable future for Indonesian Muslims.

    It’s been 61 years since our independence and Muslims had never been allowed to life their lives according to how their religion taught them, the true Islamic one. All this time Muslims had tolerated our non Muslim countrymen, at our expense of not living the Islamic way of live.

    Yes, that had intrigued me for quite a while too, what is ‘the better life’ for us? Secularism had clearly failed us.

  26. avatar Tomaculum says:
    December 21st, 2006 at 2:38 am

    Hassan.
    Allow me some questions:

    It’s been 61 years since our independence and Muslims had never been allowed to life their lives according to how their religion taught them, the true Islamic one.

    How is the true Islamic life, Hassan? At the expense of not living of Kebudayaan Indonesia and transfering Kebudayaan Arab 1 to 1 to Indonesia?

    As far as I know the Moslems in Indonesia lived and some still live Islamic life, with a touch of Kebudayaan Indonesia, yes, because they are Indonesian. What you see nowaday is not Islamisation, but Arabicization. Look around, what kind of clothes the Indonesian Moslems wear, their attitudes etc. Sometimes I ask myself, is that really Indonesia?

    All this time Muslims had tolerated our non Muslim countrymen, at our expense of not living the Islamic way of live.

    Tolerating others at the expense of not living the Islamic way of live? Back again to the question: what do you understand with true Islamic live? Even the Wali Sanga had token the original Indonesian cultures inti account during their proselytisation.

    And can you help me understand that if Islam is not the only truthful and best way of live then what does the verse suppose to mean if following Christianity and judaism is an allowed alternative? Why didn’t it say that following those other faiths is ok?

    2:120

    “Never will the Jews or the Christians be satisfied with thee unless thou follow their form of religion. Say: “The Guidance of Allah,-that is the (only) Guidance.” Wert thou to follow their desires after the knowledge which hath reached thee, then wouldst thou find neither Protector nor helper against Allah.”

    By reason of a verse you claim that Islam is the only and truthful and best way of live? For whom? And if the Jews or the Christians or the Hindus say, the way of live according to their religions is the only best way, so who is right?

    Every religion is for me suspicious, which claim to present the only best and truthful way of live.

    Yes, that had intrigued me for quite a while too, what is ‘the better life’ for us? Secularism had clearly failed us.

    Really? Tell us some proofs to your statement, I am willing to learn.

  27. avatar Ihaknt says:
    December 21st, 2006 at 4:24 am

    Hassan, I am a Moslem and i reject the idea. Because it’s not going to advance the society. Back to jaman jahilliyah. As Tom said it’s Arabicisation. We are losing our true identity as Indonesians. Allah SWT gave us these beautiful varieties of different customs across the region why change them to something we are not? Isn’t that in a way then challenging Allah’s way that’s been given to us? To live our lives as Indonesians not as Arabs? How could you say that secularism had failed us? It probably failed you because you’re too picik to see the it as a way to learn from each other as the Qur’an also states.

  28. avatar Dimp says:
    December 21st, 2006 at 5:20 am

    Hey Hassan,

    Do you mean that the true Islamic teaching does not warrant toleration to non-Moslem? And yet Islam is claimed to be a peaceful religion…..

    You said secularism has failed you? Can you elaborate this, can you please explain how secularism has failed?

  29. avatar Andrew says:
    December 21st, 2006 at 5:38 am

    Hassan:

    It’s been 61 years since our independence and Muslims had never been allowed to life their lives according to how their religion taught them, the true Islamic one. All this time Muslims had tolerated our non Muslim countrymen, at our expense of not living the Islamic way of live.

    Shocking. Tell me how tolerating non Muslims has prevented you to live the “true Islamic way of life”. What is actually “living the Islamic way of live”? Why do you think you have more rights to live they way you want? what makes you think others (“non-Muslim countrymen”) can’t live their way of life?

    “Everything western is bad, anything Arabic is good” seems to be your motto, and tolerance doesn’t seem to be in your vocabulary.

  30. avatar Mohammed Khafi says:
    December 21st, 2006 at 6:54 am

    Hassan,

    With regard to cultures, I value our varied Indonesian cultures as well as my Islamic identity, But my Islam comes from my heart it is not something that needs to be clothed in a particular style.

    Arabisation as I see it, is a culture of compulsion and oppression, removing God given freedom of choice, Westernisation is a culture of freeom of choice there is no compulsion in it, we cannot compel people to have good hearts that can only come from freedom of choice, the freedom to make the right and wrong decisions oneself. I can wear a pair of jeans and a tee shirt and still be a good Muslim.

    I would hate to see the day that my daughter could not get married wearing kebaya, and with her beautiful hair piled up on her head and decorated, radiant and beautiful as any Indonesian bride should be. Arabisation would not allow that to happen. Conformity to Arab cultural norms would be all that was allowed. I would dread also the day that our identity as Indonesian is finally stripped from us, this does not have to happen with Westernisation , there are many examples of Asian countries which have Westernised, but not lost their culture, Japan, Korea, India, Thailand are just some examples.

    I cannot understand your idea that Muslims have never been allowed to live an Islamic way of life? Islam comes from the heart Hassan, in what way has your heart been prevented from obeying Allah’s laws? I think you are confusing Arab Culture with Islam.

    You said:

    if following Christianity and judaism is an allowed alternative? Why didn’t it say that following those other faiths is ok?

    But it does Hassan:

    “….. And had there not been Allah’s repelling some people by others, certainly there would have been pulled down cloisters and churches and synagogues and mosques in which Allah’s name is much remembered; and surely Allah will help him who helps His cause; most surely Allah is Strong, Mighty” 22:04

    “Those who believe, and the Jews, and the Christians, and the Sabi’een, whoever believes in God and the Last Day and does good, they shall have their reward from their Lord, and there is no fear for them, nor shall they grieve.” 2:62

    Hassan you have to learn more tolerance of other faiths:

    “Say (O Muhammad): We believe in Allah and that which is revealed unto us and that which was revealed unto Abraham and Ishmael and Isaac and Jacob and the tribes, and that which was vouchsafed unto Moses and Jesus and the prophets from their Lord. We make no distinction between any of them, and unto Him we have surrendered. ” 3:84

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